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This should be about what you want in your career now, and not about your age. Once you can clearly answer the first question, it will be easy to find the right

This should be about what you want in your career now, and not about your age. Once you can clearly answer the first question, it will be easy to find the right place.

jebarker 2y ago
You're making an assumption that OP has the financial security to follow their desires rather than needs.
- 9rx 2y ago
  Neither desire or need was mentioned, only want, which addresses both desire and need. If financial security is what the OP wants, the parent comment already has him covered.
  - quesera 2y ago
    If you can coherently differentiate "want" from "desire", I'd love to hear it. :)
    - 9rx 2y ago
      Per the dictionary, want is defined as: "ought, should, or need to do something." That which you ought, need, or should do is not necessarily what you desire. As it relates the conversation, financial stability is not likely a desire in and of itself, but it may be what you need.
      - quesera 2y ago
        There is no "the dictionary". E.g.: desire: transitive verb: To wish or long for; want - The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition desire: verb [T not continuous]: (WANT) - The Cambridge Dictionary (et cetera ad nauseam)
        9rx 2y ago
        Yes, words often mean more than one thing. "want" has several commonly used meanings, not to mention that the author can define it however he pleases on the spot.
        quesera 2y ago
        Right. So I'm sticking with the belief that you cannot coherently differentiate "want" from "desire", which was my point. :)
        9rx 2y ago
        In context, "desire" is defined as what one would prefer to do absent of any financial constraints. With the stated acceptance of reality, one can want financial independence out of need without it being their desire (per the given definition). It may be true that some definitions of "want" and "desire" prevent coherent differentiation, but as we established, and you willingly agreed, words do allow for more than one meaning...
        quesera 2y ago
        I cannot think of a single case where the words "want" and "desire" are not interchangeable. One might connote a greater or lesser longing or preference in a given context, but I think that will also vary. To the point: > one can want financial independence out of need without it being their desire (per the given definition). This sentence works equally well with the words swapped. ... Anyway, this is not an interesting diversion. It was intended to point out that the semantics are not worth debating. Hopefully it will be disconnected from the thread and not waste anyone else's time.
        9rx 2y ago
        By strict application of the most common use, that is effectively true. But in that case needing financial independence before seeking more lofty careers goals is a desire like any other. The premise introduced in the first reply is a false premise if you want to take that angle. However, to do so shows a gross misunderstanding of the English language. Meanings are not set in stone like that. Meaning is fluid and can change with context. Said reply defines "desire" to exclude financial concerns, but maintains "want" in the original sense. The intent of the comment is quite clear. It fails by false assumption. With that contextual defining of "desire', these words are no longer interchangeable. "Want" includes the case where one wants financial independence, while "desire" is defined, in context, to exclude wanting financial independence.
    - snowwrestler 2y ago
      I mean, they are different words for a reason.
      - quesera 2y ago
        Then differentiate them coherently for me. Ideally with either prescriptivist justification or descriptivist evidence.
        kaskakokos 2y ago
        You want someone to teach you the difference, but what you desire is for no one to be able to point out a single difference to you. I had to try :/
ghaff 2y ago
That actually distills it down pretty well. What's your financial position? What do you want/need your financial position to be once you (maybe, largely) stop collecting a paycheck? Are you OK with not working for a company vs. maybe doing some stuff on the side? Especially once you've thought about your finances, your horizons may open up a lot. I know people who largely retired in their 40s and that may be for you or may be hell.

This should be about what you want in your career now, and not about your age. Once you can clearly answer the first question, it will be easy to find the right place.

jebarker 2y ago

You're making an assumption that OP has the financial security to follow their desires rather than needs.

9rx 2y ago
Neither desire or need was mentioned, only want, which addresses both desire and need. If financial security is what the OP wants, the parent comment already has him covered.
- quesera 2y ago
  If you can coherently differentiate "want" from "desire", I'd love to hear it. :)
  - 9rx 2y ago
    Per the dictionary, want is defined as: "ought, should, or need to do something." That which you ought, need, or should do is not necessarily what you desire. As it relates the conversation, financial stability is not likely a desire in and of itself, but it may be what you need.
    - quesera 2y ago
      There is no "the dictionary". E.g.: desire: transitive verb: To wish or long for; want - The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition desire: verb [T not continuous]: (WANT) - The Cambridge Dictionary (et cetera ad nauseam)
      - 9rx 2y ago
        Yes, words often mean more than one thing. "want" has several commonly used meanings, not to mention that the author can define it however he pleases on the spot.
        quesera 2y ago
        Right. So I'm sticking with the belief that you cannot coherently differentiate "want" from "desire", which was my point. :)
        9rx 2y ago
        In context, "desire" is defined as what one would prefer to do absent of any financial constraints. With the stated acceptance of reality, one can want financial independence out of need without it being their desire (per the given definition). It may be true that some definitions of "want" and "desire" prevent coherent differentiation, but as we established, and you willingly agreed, words do allow for more than one meaning...
        quesera 2y ago
        I cannot think of a single case where the words "want" and "desire" are not interchangeable. One might connote a greater or lesser longing or preference in a given context, but I think that will also vary. To the point: > one can want financial independence out of need without it being their desire (per the given definition). This sentence works equally well with the words swapped. ... Anyway, this is not an interesting diversion. It was intended to point out that the semantics are not worth debating. Hopefully it will be disconnected from the thread and not waste anyone else's time.
        9rx 2y ago
        By strict application of the most common use, that is effectively true. But in that case needing financial independence before seeking more lofty careers goals is a desire like any other. The premise introduced in the first reply is a false premise if you want to take that angle. However, to do so shows a gross misunderstanding of the English language. Meanings are not set in stone like that. Meaning is fluid and can change with context. Said reply defines "desire" to exclude financial concerns, but maintains "want" in the original sense. The intent of the comment is quite clear. It fails by false assumption. With that contextual defining of "desire', these words are no longer interchangeable. "Want" includes the case where one wants financial independence, while "desire" is defined, in context, to exclude wanting financial independence.
  - snowwrestler 2y ago
    I mean, they are different words for a reason.
    - quesera 2y ago
      Then differentiate them coherently for me. Ideally with either prescriptivist justification or descriptivist evidence.
      - kaskakokos 2y ago
        You want someone to teach you the difference, but what you desire is for no one to be able to point out a single difference to you. I had to try :/

ghaff 2y ago

That actually distills it down pretty well. What's your financial position? What do you want/need your financial position to be once you (maybe, largely) stop collecting a paycheck? Are you OK with not working for a company vs. maybe doing some stuff on the side? Especially once you've thought about your finances, your horizons may open up a lot. I know people who largely retired in their 40s and that may be for you or may be hell.