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It’s one per year and the stated reasons are fair enough. Even if you get a new phone every year it’s business as usual.

BLKNSLVR 2y ago
Yes, that doesn't really affect me as an end user, but I think it disproportionately would affect developers. If it makes their lives harder then they'll avoid. I think the stated reasons are bullshit. Unlocking the bootloader isn't a process your regular customer base is performing, so it will only affect the hobbyists. They're basically stating they don't want the hobbyist community anymore. And maybe that's a bit harsh given they're just dropping from three per year to one per year, but why? How much of a difference to their stated reasons* will the change from three to one make? I think it's just the tightening of a screw that's intending to squeeze out an element they no longer want. (Or maybe it's to satiate an untrusting US government, to delay their own Huawei-ing) *Reasons stated in the article are assumptions and haven't come directly from Xiaomi.
- nindalf 2y ago
  > disproportionately would affect developers Developers of what? If it affected every software developer out there, then yeah this is a major issue. But it's a small subset of developers - mobile developers. Actually, a smaller subset - the ones on Android, not iOS. And even smaller than that - not the ones who develop apps in Kotlin (what we see on the Play Store), but the ones who hack in C++ on AOSP. Every community likes to imagine that it is disproportionately large and powerful and influential (unless being tiny is a flex) and the ROM community is no different. To put it in perspective, the size of the LineageOS install base is 1.5 million, which is 0.05% of the total Android install base - 3 billion. To claim that this community will make any difference to the vast majority of normies who just want to use WhatsApp, TikTok and their bank app - it's a bit delusional if I'm honest. And to somehow tie this to the US government, that's full on tinfoil hat conspiracy mongering. You cannot be serious.
  - BLKNSLVR 2y ago
    Totally understand the size of the install base for LOS. As someone else said, their target market is SE Asia. Where I am, Xiaomi is pretty much an enthusiast / hobbyist only brand.
  - arresin 2y ago
    > the total Android install base - 3 billion. That's so wild to me as an early millennial. For a good chunk of my life the smart phone didn't even exist and going back further computers were only for nerds. Now 3 billion freaking people using a computer every single day in a form factor that at one point I thought would be always marginal (vs desktops and laptops).

BLKNSLVR 2y ago

Yes, that doesn't really affect me as an end user, but I think it disproportionately would affect developers. If it makes their lives harder then they'll avoid. I think the stated reasons are bullshit. Unlocking the bootloader isn't a process your regular customer base is performing, so it will only affect the hobbyists. They're basically stating they don't want the hobbyist community anymore. And maybe that's a bit harsh given they're just dropping from three per year to one per year, but why? How much of a difference to their stated reasons* will the change from three to one make? I think it's just the tightening of a screw that's intending to squeeze out an element they no longer want. (Or maybe it's to satiate an untrusting US government, to delay their own Huawei-ing) *Reasons stated in the article are assumptions and haven't come directly from Xiaomi.

nindalf 2y ago
> disproportionately would affect developers Developers of what? If it affected every software developer out there, then yeah this is a major issue. But it's a small subset of developers - mobile developers. Actually, a smaller subset - the ones on Android, not iOS. And even smaller than that - not the ones who develop apps in Kotlin (what we see on the Play Store), but the ones who hack in C++ on AOSP. Every community likes to imagine that it is disproportionately large and powerful and influential (unless being tiny is a flex) and the ROM community is no different. To put it in perspective, the size of the LineageOS install base is 1.5 million, which is 0.05% of the total Android install base - 3 billion. To claim that this community will make any difference to the vast majority of normies who just want to use WhatsApp, TikTok and their bank app - it's a bit delusional if I'm honest. And to somehow tie this to the US government, that's full on tinfoil hat conspiracy mongering. You cannot be serious.
- BLKNSLVR 2y ago
  Totally understand the size of the install base for LOS. As someone else said, their target market is SE Asia. Where I am, Xiaomi is pretty much an enthusiast / hobbyist only brand.
- arresin 2y ago
  > the total Android install base - 3 billion. That's so wild to me as an early millennial. For a good chunk of my life the smart phone didn't even exist and going back further computers were only for nerds. Now 3 billion freaking people using a computer every single day in a form factor that at one point I thought would be always marginal (vs desktops and laptops).