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If anything, it seems to have done a decent job of redirecting the explosion upwards.

palmfacehn 2y ago
>"The evil knuckleheads picked the wrong vehicle for a terrorist attack. Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards. Not even the glass doors of the lobby were broken." https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1874614362612326761 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1874614362612326761
- mmooss 2y ago
  What do you think of that -- do you believe it? Why is it important? Why do you think Musk posted it? ?
  - dole 2y ago
    Easy way to save some Cybertruck face and Tesla stock price. “Happy accidents.”
  - palmfacehn 2y ago
    From the reports I've read, the combustible materials consisted of large fireworks and some unpressurized fuel canisters. I'm not an expert in this field, but it seems that these materials, in this configuration, wouldn't create a large explosion outside of a Michael Bay movie. If placed correctly, they could have damaged the facade of the building via heat. If they had put them in a common 50 gal. steel drum with no lid, I suspect the results would have been much the same. Why did he post it? Why did the attacker choose a CyberTruck? If we are going to open up on speculation, then it seems reasonable to suspect that the attacker chose a CyberTruck because of Elon's relationship to the incoming administration. In response it makes sense that Elon would highlight the inept execution. Some partisan responses to the health insurer's assassination have been positive. Even comments on this site seem to be rationalizing the violence. Typically, decent people would condemn terrorist violence as irrational escalation. Highlighting the inept execution and poor planning illustrates the irrationality of the attacker. If Elon can subtly parlay it into some of the safety marketing or durability of his vehicle, that's an extra win on top. Compare the narratives: "Luigi was a smart guy and master planner who read books. Let's plug the author." "It didn't even break the glass"
    - cmurf 2y ago
      Trump, Musk, the Speaker, and Fox News are running with both Vegas and New Orleans events being the result of open borders, despite both perpetrators being American citizens. Is it fair to say this kind of distortion is typical MAGA? Typical Republican? Is it decent? Why lie? Fox initially ran with a story the NOLA truck illegally crossed the border with Mexico. This disinformation is intentional, no one is this incompetent. They know their demographic wants to be lied to. Disinformation is the product they're selling. Same with the politicians.
      - palmfacehn 2y ago
        This is a bit of a tangent. I haven't reviewed all of the claims you outlined. Turtles all the way down. I would say it typifies media across the board. There's also the meta-distortion where partisan sources misrepresent the statements of opposing partisans to present them as dishonest.
        mmooss 2y ago
        > I would say it typifies media across the board. It depends on what you mean by 'media', but I think among top-level news media, Fox and ideological fellow travelers embrace disinformation and produce it at orders of magnitude higher volumes, while others make occasional errors.

>"The evil knuckleheads picked the wrong vehicle for a terrorist attack. Cybertruck actually contained the explosion and directed the blast upwards. Not even the glass doors of the lobby were broken." https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1874614362612326761 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1874614362612326761

mmooss 2y ago
What do you think of that -- do you believe it? Why is it important? Why do you think Musk posted it? ?
- dole 2y ago
  Easy way to save some Cybertruck face and Tesla stock price. “Happy accidents.”
- palmfacehn 2y ago
  From the reports I've read, the combustible materials consisted of large fireworks and some unpressurized fuel canisters. I'm not an expert in this field, but it seems that these materials, in this configuration, wouldn't create a large explosion outside of a Michael Bay movie. If placed correctly, they could have damaged the facade of the building via heat. If they had put them in a common 50 gal. steel drum with no lid, I suspect the results would have been much the same. Why did he post it? Why did the attacker choose a CyberTruck? If we are going to open up on speculation, then it seems reasonable to suspect that the attacker chose a CyberTruck because of Elon's relationship to the incoming administration. In response it makes sense that Elon would highlight the inept execution. Some partisan responses to the health insurer's assassination have been positive. Even comments on this site seem to be rationalizing the violence. Typically, decent people would condemn terrorist violence as irrational escalation. Highlighting the inept execution and poor planning illustrates the irrationality of the attacker. If Elon can subtly parlay it into some of the safety marketing or durability of his vehicle, that's an extra win on top. Compare the narratives: "Luigi was a smart guy and master planner who read books. Let's plug the author." "It didn't even break the glass"
  - cmurf 2y ago
    Trump, Musk, the Speaker, and Fox News are running with both Vegas and New Orleans events being the result of open borders, despite both perpetrators being American citizens. Is it fair to say this kind of distortion is typical MAGA? Typical Republican? Is it decent? Why lie? Fox initially ran with a story the NOLA truck illegally crossed the border with Mexico. This disinformation is intentional, no one is this incompetent. They know their demographic wants to be lied to. Disinformation is the product they're selling. Same with the politicians.
    - palmfacehn 2y ago
      This is a bit of a tangent. I haven't reviewed all of the claims you outlined. Turtles all the way down. I would say it typifies media across the board. There's also the meta-distortion where partisan sources misrepresent the statements of opposing partisans to present them as dishonest.
      - mmooss 2y ago
        > I would say it typifies media across the board. It depends on what you mean by 'media', but I think among top-level news media, Fox and ideological fellow travelers embrace disinformation and produce it at orders of magnitude higher volumes, while others make occasional errors.