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Predates the web but not the internet.

stephenr 2y ago
Literally from the article, emphasis is mine: > An ASCII artist who goes by the screen name “goto80” told me in an email that, according to his research, the first modern text-based porn was probably sent via teletext. Teletext was a late 70s pre-internet technology for sending text and graphics to a television set, that never quite took off in the way people thought it would at the time.
- dualboot 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
  - stephenr 2y ago
    What point are you trying to make? Arpanet is not the internet and the internet is not Arpanet. The claim wasn't that it predates any wide area network. It was that it predates the Internet, a specific well known wide area network.
    - dualboot 2y ago
      Your lack of understanding of the history of the internet is really not any of my business nor concern.
- kmoser 2y ago
  Not saying goto80 is wrong, but I'd like to know what his research found and why he's qualifying it with "probably".
- ochrist 2y ago
  Teletext is still used in several countries. Also, I have seen ascii art on telex-type machines. These are limited by using only five bits, and so you can only use lowercase characters (or uppercase, but not both). There are some examples here: http://artscene.textfiles.com/rtty/RTTYCOM/ http://artscene.textfiles.com/rtty/RTTYCOM/
buildsjets 2y ago
Predates the internet, just like me. My mom was a high school math teacher, and was taking a COBOL class for her Masters at Hofstra University in 1977. I’m certain it was ‘77 because the Commodore PET had just released and she had one on home-loan that summer. One of my earliest memories is visiting the mainframe room, probably age 6-7, where the bearded sysadmin used a teletypewriter to print me a giant ascii art picture of Snoopy, standing in profile, on a green and white striped, tractor-fed paper. I’m sure the sysadmin had other interesting ascii art that was not appropriate to share with 7 year old. Old man story over, but holy F, Hofstra is still teaching COBOL, wow? https://www.hofstra.edu/academics/ce/professionaldevelopment/technology/ce_program.html https://www.hofstra.edu/academics/ce/professionaldevelopment...
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
At my location certainly predates the internet, it was distributed on magnetic tapes.
Hilift 2y ago
ARPANET was established in 1969. In 1966 Ken Knowles at Bell Labs created the "Computer Nude" which "by scanning a photograph with a camera and converting the analog voltages to binary numbers, which were assigned typographic symbols based on halftone densities. It was printed in The New York Times on October 11, 1967". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Knowlton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Knowlton

Literally from the article, emphasis is mine: > An ASCII artist who goes by the screen name “goto80” told me in an email that, according to his research, the first modern text-based porn was probably sent via teletext. Teletext was a late 70s pre-internet technology for sending text and graphics to a television set, that never quite took off in the way people thought it would at the time.

dualboot 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET
- stephenr 2y ago
  What point are you trying to make? Arpanet is not the internet and the internet is not Arpanet. The claim wasn't that it predates any wide area network. It was that it predates the Internet, a specific well known wide area network.
  - dualboot 2y ago
    Your lack of understanding of the history of the internet is really not any of my business nor concern.
kmoser 2y ago
Not saying goto80 is wrong, but I'd like to know what his research found and why he's qualifying it with "probably".
ochrist 2y ago
Teletext is still used in several countries. Also, I have seen ascii art on telex-type machines. These are limited by using only five bits, and so you can only use lowercase characters (or uppercase, but not both). There are some examples here: http://artscene.textfiles.com/rtty/RTTYCOM/ http://artscene.textfiles.com/rtty/RTTYCOM/

buildsjets 2y ago

Predates the internet, just like me. My mom was a high school math teacher, and was taking a COBOL class for her Masters at Hofstra University in 1977. I’m certain it was ‘77 because the Commodore PET had just released and she had one on home-loan that summer. One of my earliest memories is visiting the mainframe room, probably age 6-7, where the bearded sysadmin used a teletypewriter to print me a giant ascii art picture of Snoopy, standing in profile, on a green and white striped, tractor-fed paper. I’m sure the sysadmin had other interesting ascii art that was not appropriate to share with 7 year old. Old man story over, but holy F, Hofstra is still teaching COBOL, wow? https://www.hofstra.edu/academics/ce/professionaldevelopment/technology/ce_program.html https://www.hofstra.edu/academics/ce/professionaldevelopment...

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago

At my location certainly predates the internet, it was distributed on magnetic tapes.

Hilift 2y ago

ARPANET was established in 1969. In 1966 Ken Knowles at Bell Labs created the "Computer Nude" which "by scanning a photograph with a camera and converting the analog voltages to binary numbers, which were assigned typographic symbols based on halftone densities. It was printed in The New York Times on October 11, 1967". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Knowlton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Knowlton