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A single-purpose state machine not failing to do the single thing it was created to do does not make for the clever retort you think it makes. "AGI": emphasis

A single-purpose state machine not failing to do the single thing it was created to do does not make for the clever retort you think it makes. "AGI": emphasis on "G" for "General". The LLMs are not failing to do generalized tasks, and that they are nondeterministic is not a bug. Just don't use them for calculating sales tax. You wouldn't hire a human to calculate sales tax in their head, so why do you make this a requirement in order to call an LLM "AGI"? I wonder when the goalposts will stop moving from "We have superhuman intelligences which are able to rather reliably converse in many languages, do generalized tasks and automate operations we thought were impossible to automate 3 years ago" (and by the way, this is what we have TODAY), all the way to "It's not AGI unless it's an omnipotent god that knows how to turn water into wine and calculate the applicable sales tax of that operation".

Jensson 2y ago
> You wouldn't hire a human to calculate sales tax in their head Everyone did that 60 years ago, humans are very capable at learning and doing that. Humans built jetplanes, skyscrapers, missiles, tanks, carriers without the help of electronic computers.
- sdenton4 2y ago
  Yeah... They used side rules and vast lookup tables of function values printed on dead trees. For the highest value work, they painstakingly built analog calculators. They very carefully checked their work, because it was easy to make a mistake when composing operations. Humans did those things by designing failsafe processes, and practicing the hell out of them. What we would likely consider over fitting in the llm training context.
stefan_ 2y ago
I do not get it, where are all the serious people? Just come out and say what it is and what it is not. Pretend for a moment you have the ethics and work philosophy of an undergraduate science student.

Jensson 2y ago

> You wouldn't hire a human to calculate sales tax in their head Everyone did that 60 years ago, humans are very capable at learning and doing that. Humans built jetplanes, skyscrapers, missiles, tanks, carriers without the help of electronic computers.

sdenton4 2y ago
Yeah... They used side rules and vast lookup tables of function values printed on dead trees. For the highest value work, they painstakingly built analog calculators. They very carefully checked their work, because it was easy to make a mistake when composing operations. Humans did those things by designing failsafe processes, and practicing the hell out of them. What we would likely consider over fitting in the llm training context.

stefan_ 2y ago

I do not get it, where are all the serious people? Just come out and say what it is and what it is not. Pretend for a moment you have the ethics and work philosophy of an undergraduate science student.