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> ... is legitimate and goes out of their way to remove problem content ... This is blatantly not true. I know because I've reported a clearly illegal video on

> ... is legitimate and goes out of their way to remove problem content ... This is blatantly not true. I know because I've reported a clearly illegal video on every avenue I could find (the report button, emailing support, etc..) and the video was only taken down when PornHub removed all videos expect the verified ones some years ago.

Brian_K_White 2y ago
This anecdote does not remotely disprove the assertion.
Nifty3929 2y ago
I didn't say that they remove every single piece of problem content, or that they remove every single thing a user flags. But I do believe that they go out of their way to do so. They make way too much money to do otherwise. Also, they may (I hope) be a better company now than in the past, as your example seems to show (you indicate that they started requiring verification for uploaded videos). Maybe they grew up, or maybe they just realized that their revenue (or entire business) would be compromised unless they took serious, ongoing action. In any case - Aylo/PH must certainly be better than many of the alternatives that are based in very permissive jurisdictions and just don't care. Those are the sites people in these Southern states are going to end up on now. I'm sorry that in your case they failed though.
- sadboi31 2y ago
  Yeah, no. They absolutely did not do everything in their capacity. The complete opposite is my anecdotal unsourced take. I worked w/ a woman who used 1000s of sockpuppets of soldiers near military bases to try to wax out information about the aggression associated with their suggestion algorithms. Pornhub is worse than YT when it comes to encouraging radicalism. She didn't even get to publish and she would receive dildos, fleshlights, and other horrific things. She left the country.
  - thorum 2y ago
    This isn’t a counterargument. Yes, mainstream US sites are not saints and have many serious issues. Also yes, they are least subject to US jurisdiction and can be held to some account. If these restrictions drive users to websites that are far, far worse then they will be doing more harm than good.
    - sadboi31 2y ago
      If i were interested in argument I'd cite dozens of papers from https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/ https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/ But whenever i've done so from alt accounts I get brigaded. I have literally paid people to edit comments to improve my tone and it makes no difference. I'm just sharing a small, honest, account of lived experience. I come here for discussion. Not debate. certainly not argument. If i present myself incorrectly I try to act reflexively and openly. Some people want to discount that and make everything fact based but sometimes sharing facts on the wrong forum just further reinforces injustice. I do 20+ pushups, crunches, or burpees in between posts across the web. lol
      - Bancakes 2y ago
        Not OP. You seem to be having some communication misalignments. What ticked me off is the combativeness you displayed. Insisting hard on your side with words like “blatantly” and “Yeah, no”. Also doing burpees and pushups sounds interesting - are you overstimulated? Is that a form of stimming? Are you in the spectrum?
      - thorum 2y ago
        Fair enough.
      - PaulHoule 2y ago
        Whenever I've hired a copy editor to help me deal with the line noise in my writing (sometimes a keyboard feels like a Ouija board to me) I've found they inject more errors (and more serious errors) than I do myself.
  - 2y ago
bryanlarsen 2y ago
So you're saying it was not true several years ago, but is true now?
- tivert 2y ago
  > So you're saying it was not true several years ago, but is true now? IIRC, they only did anything because NYT op-ed writer basically went to war with them and shined a very bright light on all the shady stuff they were tolerating. That speaks to their true motivations.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    > That speaks to their true motivations. Yes, the same as almost every other corporation: money. Today they make more money with less risk by self-policing their content.
Throwaway202501 2y ago
All aylo sites have a feature to take down content, it happens automatically and then content is sent for manual check. If it's a false report it's brought back online otherwise its permanently gone. (sorry for throwaway account)

Brian_K_White 2y ago

This anecdote does not remotely disprove the assertion.

Nifty3929 2y ago

I didn't say that they remove every single piece of problem content, or that they remove every single thing a user flags. But I do believe that they go out of their way to do so. They make way too much money to do otherwise. Also, they may (I hope) be a better company now than in the past, as your example seems to show (you indicate that they started requiring verification for uploaded videos). Maybe they grew up, or maybe they just realized that their revenue (or entire business) would be compromised unless they took serious, ongoing action. In any case - Aylo/PH must certainly be better than many of the alternatives that are based in very permissive jurisdictions and just don't care. Those are the sites people in these Southern states are going to end up on now. I'm sorry that in your case they failed though.

sadboi31 2y ago
Yeah, no. They absolutely did not do everything in their capacity. The complete opposite is my anecdotal unsourced take. I worked w/ a woman who used 1000s of sockpuppets of soldiers near military bases to try to wax out information about the aggression associated with their suggestion algorithms. Pornhub is worse than YT when it comes to encouraging radicalism. She didn't even get to publish and she would receive dildos, fleshlights, and other horrific things. She left the country.
- thorum 2y ago
  This isn’t a counterargument. Yes, mainstream US sites are not saints and have many serious issues. Also yes, they are least subject to US jurisdiction and can be held to some account. If these restrictions drive users to websites that are far, far worse then they will be doing more harm than good.
  - sadboi31 2y ago
    If i were interested in argument I'd cite dozens of papers from https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/ https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/ But whenever i've done so from alt accounts I get brigaded. I have literally paid people to edit comments to improve my tone and it makes no difference. I'm just sharing a small, honest, account of lived experience. I come here for discussion. Not debate. certainly not argument. If i present myself incorrectly I try to act reflexively and openly. Some people want to discount that and make everything fact based but sometimes sharing facts on the wrong forum just further reinforces injustice. I do 20+ pushups, crunches, or burpees in between posts across the web. lol
    - Bancakes 2y ago
      Not OP. You seem to be having some communication misalignments. What ticked me off is the combativeness you displayed. Insisting hard on your side with words like “blatantly” and “Yeah, no”. Also doing burpees and pushups sounds interesting - are you overstimulated? Is that a form of stimming? Are you in the spectrum?
    - thorum 2y ago
      Fair enough.
    - PaulHoule 2y ago
      Whenever I've hired a copy editor to help me deal with the line noise in my writing (sometimes a keyboard feels like a Ouija board to me) I've found they inject more errors (and more serious errors) than I do myself.
- 2y ago

bryanlarsen 2y ago

So you're saying it was not true several years ago, but is true now?

tivert 2y ago
> So you're saying it was not true several years ago, but is true now? IIRC, they only did anything because NYT op-ed writer basically went to war with them and shined a very bright light on all the shady stuff they were tolerating. That speaks to their true motivations.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  > That speaks to their true motivations. Yes, the same as almost every other corporation: money. Today they make more money with less risk by self-policing their content.

Throwaway202501 2y ago

All aylo sites have a feature to take down content, it happens automatically and then content is sent for manual check. If it's a false report it's brought back online otherwise its permanently gone. (sorry for throwaway account)