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"Sex addiction counselor" sounds like the kind of person who thinks anyone who has ever looked at porn is a pervert if single and an adulterer if partnered, and

"Sex addiction counselor" sounds like the kind of person who thinks anyone who has ever looked at porn is a pervert if single and an adulterer if partnered, and makes persecuting those people her whole identity. Definitely not someone I'd trust to have a reasonable opinion crafting the laws that govern society.

robertlagrant 2y ago
It doesn't sound like that. That's your bias.
- proxynoproxy 2y ago
  It really does. Puritanical questers should be far far away from the levers of power. The amount of harm done by ignorant, twisted moralistic campaigns is measured in the decades.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    Possibly, but the puritans of which you speak talked the way you do too. Puritans might be long gone, but people who do crazy assumption-piling to justify some hatred or other never will be.
Osmose 2y ago
The APA even removed sex addiction from the DSM-V, which isn't the end-all-be-all of what is or isn't a mental disorder, but is indicative of how science has broadly rejected the idea of sex addiction being a meaningful disorder. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/close-and-personal/201609/anthony-weiner-is-not-sex-addict-neither-is-anyone-else-0 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/close-and-personal/2...
- throwaway5273 2y ago
  Although the addiction model is controversial and not widely accepted, most professionals do acknowledge that psychological problems can drive maladaptive sexual behavior that causes significant personal and professional impairment. It’s important to stress that pornography use alone is not considered maladaptive, irrespective of local cultural norms that seek to restrict the sexual behavior of consenting adults. AASECT (the largest professional body of sex therapists in the United States) has a definition of Out of Control Sexual Behavior, and Compulsive Sexual Behavior Disorder is retained by the ICD. Most consumers of pornography do not meet either definition, but it’s important to recognize that some do.
jfengel 2y ago
Some are. Some are not. There are definitely sex negative counselors out there. Absolutely do not go to them. But there do exist people who can't control a habit for almost any pleasurable thing. There are counselors who can help, and will also make clear that if you don't have a problem then you don't need their services. Finding the right counselor for you can be difficult. But they are not all the same, and while any negative stereotype will have exemplars, they won't be universal. (Right wing anti porn legislators, on the other hand, are all bad.)

robertlagrant 2y ago

It doesn't sound like that. That's your bias.

proxynoproxy 2y ago
It really does. Puritanical questers should be far far away from the levers of power. The amount of harm done by ignorant, twisted moralistic campaigns is measured in the decades.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  Possibly, but the puritans of which you speak talked the way you do too. Puritans might be long gone, but people who do crazy assumption-piling to justify some hatred or other never will be.

Osmose 2y ago

The APA even removed sex addiction from the DSM-V, which isn't the end-all-be-all of what is or isn't a mental disorder, but is indicative of how science has broadly rejected the idea of sex addiction being a meaningful disorder. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/close-and-personal/201609/anthony-weiner-is-not-sex-addict-neither-is-anyone-else-0 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/close-and-personal/2...

throwaway5273 2y ago
Although the addiction model is controversial and not widely accepted, most professionals do acknowledge that psychological problems can drive maladaptive sexual behavior that causes significant personal and professional impairment. It’s important to stress that pornography use alone is not considered maladaptive, irrespective of local cultural norms that seek to restrict the sexual behavior of consenting adults. AASECT (the largest professional body of sex therapists in the United States) has a definition of Out of Control Sexual Behavior, and Compulsive Sexual Behavior Disorder is retained by the ICD. Most consumers of pornography do not meet either definition, but it’s important to recognize that some do.

jfengel 2y ago

Some are. Some are not. There are definitely sex negative counselors out there. Absolutely do not go to them. But there do exist people who can't control a habit for almost any pleasurable thing. There are counselors who can help, and will also make clear that if you don't have a problem then you don't need their services. Finding the right counselor for you can be difficult. But they are not all the same, and while any negative stereotype will have exemplars, they won't be universal. (Right wing anti porn legislators, on the other hand, are all bad.)