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I'd rather have an honest conversation about teenagers having access to violent media, especially how violence is absolutely normalized in the US. Seeing a boob

by tensor 2y ago

I'd rather have an honest conversation about teenagers having access to violent media, especially how violence is absolutely normalized in the US. Seeing a boob never killed anyone, but violence kills thousands every year in the US, including many children.

explorigin 2y ago
> Seeing a boob never killed anyone This is a straw-man attack. Porn produces a huge dopamine dump. Do some research on how dopamine works in the brain. Regular dopamine dumps can have a huge impact on quality of life leading to depression and building an addiction cycle.
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bhouston 2y ago
Porn consumption rates are inversely proportional to rapes [1] and likely sex in general (I'm extrapolating, but I think it is reasonable [2]?), which likely then impacts birthrates (again another extrapolation, but again I think reasonable.) So high porn consumption likely reduces birthrates. I wouldn't be surprised if there is literature to back that up. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178909000445 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13591... [2] https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/sexual-intelligence/202208/why-todays-teens-are-having-so-much-less-sex https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/sexual-intelligence/...
lr4444lr 2y ago
I encourage you to read more into the change of sexual behaviors in men who consume porn who are already in relationships and the effect this has on the women and overall relationship satisfaction. Yeah, maybe seeing a boob never killed someone, but aggressive grabbing, intimidating a partner who doesn't seem "normal", and expecting rougher more extreme sex acts that women are not comfortable with are not harmless.
- tensor 2y ago
  Oh if only there were a thing like sex education that could solve these problems. Though, I suppose dead kids don't have these issues either. I'd encourage you to reflect on the fact that your children now have active shooter drills and you consider that totally normal. Spoiler, that's not normal in most countries.
anon743448 2y ago
Absolutely, it is sad that almost all human societies normalize violence while sex is a taboo. One explanation I have read is that violent societies wiped out non-violent societies and now we are stuck with it. Only way to fight glorification of violence would be to be treat violence same way as how sex is treated and over centuries we may end up with more peaceful societies.
ben_w 2y ago
I've been making that argument since the late 90s, when, owning to the UK's age of consent being 16, I was allowed to perform acts I was not allowed to witness recordings of — but seeing someone getting outright murdered was (so long as you didn't see blood) in cartoons rated as "fine for kids of any age".

by tensor 2y ago

explorigin 2y ago

> Seeing a boob never killed anyone This is a straw-man attack. Porn produces a huge dopamine dump. Do some research on how dopamine works in the brain. Regular dopamine dumps can have a huge impact on quality of life leading to depression and building an addiction cycle.

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bhouston 2y ago

Porn consumption rates are inversely proportional to rapes [1] and likely sex in general (I'm extrapolating, but I think it is reasonable [2]?), which likely then impacts birthrates (again another extrapolation, but again I think reasonable.) So high porn consumption likely reduces birthrates. I wouldn't be surprised if there is literature to back that up. [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178909000445 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S13591... [2] https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/sexual-intelligence/202208/why-todays-teens-are-having-so-much-less-sex https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/sexual-intelligence/...

lr4444lr 2y ago

I encourage you to read more into the change of sexual behaviors in men who consume porn who are already in relationships and the effect this has on the women and overall relationship satisfaction. Yeah, maybe seeing a boob never killed someone, but aggressive grabbing, intimidating a partner who doesn't seem "normal", and expecting rougher more extreme sex acts that women are not comfortable with are not harmless.

tensor 2y ago
Oh if only there were a thing like sex education that could solve these problems. Though, I suppose dead kids don't have these issues either. I'd encourage you to reflect on the fact that your children now have active shooter drills and you consider that totally normal. Spoiler, that's not normal in most countries.

anon743448 2y ago

Absolutely, it is sad that almost all human societies normalize violence while sex is a taboo. One explanation I have read is that violent societies wiped out non-violent societies and now we are stuck with it. Only way to fight glorification of violence would be to be treat violence same way as how sex is treated and over centuries we may end up with more peaceful societies.

ben_w 2y ago

I've been making that argument since the late 90s, when, owning to the UK's age of consent being 16, I was allowed to perform acts I was not allowed to witness recordings of — but seeing someone getting outright murdered was (so long as you didn't see blood) in cartoons rated as "fine for kids of any age".