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I don't get it. Hes saying the sea has risen and the people who say it hasn't are wrong. Then he says the sea hasn't risen and those people are actually right.

I don't get it. Hes saying the sea has risen and the people who say it hasn't are wrong. Then he says the sea hasn't risen and those people are actually right. Then he says the sea is gonna rise a lot more than it hasn't. There no point here that i can find.

EdwardCoffin 2y ago
> Then he says the sea hasn't risen and those people are actually right You must be thinking of the bit where he says To be fair to those folks, it's true that – as they claim – the water level of various landmarks around the world, such as the Statue of Liberty, Plymouth Rock, and (in my own stomping ground of Sydney Harbour) Fort Denison, has not "visibly" risen since they were erected. but didn't notice the visibly. > Then he says the sea is gonna rise a lot more than it hasn't. I don't understand what you mean by this.
JohnBrookz 2y ago
The article was pretty clear and cohesive on its messaging. I’m not sure what you’re confused about.
sealeck 2y ago
I think this is mostly addressed in the article > Hes saying the sea has risen and the people who say it hasn't are wrong. Quoting from the webpage >> To be fair to those folks, it's true that – as they claim – the water level of various landmarks around the world... has not "visibly" risen since they were erected... The fact... is that the global average sea level has risen by 15-25cm (6-10") since 1900. That is – there has been some sea level rise, but not that much (yet) and therefore people may not have noticed it. Venturing beyond the first paragraph, the main point seems to be this paragraph (emphasis mine) >> *The thing is, sea level rise lags behind global warming by several decades.* So (if you'll excuse my hitting-rather-close-to-home choice of pun), what we've seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg. We've already locked in another 10-25cm (4-10") of sea level rise between now and 2050. And we're currently looking at a minimum 28-61cm (11-24") of sea level rise between now and 2100, and a minimum 40-95cm (16-38") of sea level rise between now and 2200.
rcxdude 2y ago
The main point is that sea level rise is a slow process, and lags the actual warming substantially, so even though the sea level rise hasn't been huge so far, it's going to keep going, even if carbon emissions stop (a lot of the confused messaging is people mixing up projections that are a hundred years out and thinking they were supposed to have already happened).

EdwardCoffin 2y ago

> Then he says the sea hasn't risen and those people are actually right You must be thinking of the bit where he says To be fair to those folks, it's true that – as they claim – the water level of various landmarks around the world, such as the Statue of Liberty, Plymouth Rock, and (in my own stomping ground of Sydney Harbour) Fort Denison, has not "visibly" risen since they were erected. but didn't notice the visibly. > Then he says the sea is gonna rise a lot more than it hasn't. I don't understand what you mean by this.

JohnBrookz 2y ago

The article was pretty clear and cohesive on its messaging. I’m not sure what you’re confused about.

sealeck 2y ago

I think this is mostly addressed in the article > Hes saying the sea has risen and the people who say it hasn't are wrong. Quoting from the webpage >> To be fair to those folks, it's true that – as they claim – the water level of various landmarks around the world... has not "visibly" risen since they were erected... The fact... is that the global average sea level has risen by 15-25cm (6-10") since 1900. That is – there has been some sea level rise, but not that much (yet) and therefore people may not have noticed it. Venturing beyond the first paragraph, the main point seems to be this paragraph (emphasis mine) >> *The thing is, sea level rise lags behind global warming by several decades.* So (if you'll excuse my hitting-rather-close-to-home choice of pun), what we've seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg. We've already locked in another 10-25cm (4-10") of sea level rise between now and 2050. And we're currently looking at a minimum 28-61cm (11-24") of sea level rise between now and 2100, and a minimum 40-95cm (16-38") of sea level rise between now and 2200.

rcxdude 2y ago

The main point is that sea level rise is a slow process, and lags the actual warming substantially, so even though the sea level rise hasn't been huge so far, it's going to keep going, even if carbon emissions stop (a lot of the confused messaging is people mixing up projections that are a hundred years out and thinking they were supposed to have already happened).