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> This issue is about capital vs labor The issue is about how a nation serves its people, and whether it protects American people and their culture. America i

by blased 2y ago

> This issue is about capital vs labor The issue is about how a nation serves its people, and whether it protects American people and their culture. America is not an economic zone but a nation with a responsibility to its citizens not random foreigners handed visas.

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ThrowawayR2 2y ago
On a plaque in the Statue of Liberty is the poem "The New Colossus" by Emma Lazarus, seen by many immigrants as they reached the United States: "Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" The United States was built on welcoming immigrants and achieved its greatness in no small part on the efforts of immigrants.
- Redoubts 2y ago
  Are you suggesting this is policy ratified by congress?
- salawat 2y ago
  >Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, Woefully out of date. We don't even politically understand the concept of freedom anymore. Hell, just look at how much of our jurisprudence is pinned on the "Interstate Commerce" clause, which somehow applies to purely Intrastate commerce. Furthermore, the vaunted "freedom" provided nowadays is the freedom to die for refusal to accept the current yoke of the "captains of industry" who ran off with the reins of our legislative, executive, and judicial branches. The United States is post any ideal expressed on that plaque, and too afraid of the people already here to even live up to it's founding ideals as written. The only way anyone wants to get anything done is to ship in people who ultimately won't suffer the consequences of the work they're doing, then weaponizing the output of that work against the group of people here who refused to enable them in the first place.
- eesmith 2y ago
  Seen by many European immigrants. The poem was written one year after the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882. In the Immigration Act of 1917, the US excluded people from British India. Hardly an example of "welcoming [all] immigrants."
- blased 2y ago
  The US is not an open-borders free-for-all and even during the time period you're citing related to the random poem the immigration was relatively limited. Everyone understood the necessity to properly assimilate foreigners, and therefore there were periods of moratoriums to preserve American culture.

by blased 2y ago

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ThrowawayR2 2y ago

On a plaque in the Statue of Liberty is the poem "The New Colossus" by Emma Lazarus, seen by many immigrants as they reached the United States: "Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" The United States was built on welcoming immigrants and achieved its greatness in no small part on the efforts of immigrants.

Redoubts 2y ago
Are you suggesting this is policy ratified by congress?
salawat 2y ago
>Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, Woefully out of date. We don't even politically understand the concept of freedom anymore. Hell, just look at how much of our jurisprudence is pinned on the "Interstate Commerce" clause, which somehow applies to purely Intrastate commerce. Furthermore, the vaunted "freedom" provided nowadays is the freedom to die for refusal to accept the current yoke of the "captains of industry" who ran off with the reins of our legislative, executive, and judicial branches. The United States is post any ideal expressed on that plaque, and too afraid of the people already here to even live up to it's founding ideals as written. The only way anyone wants to get anything done is to ship in people who ultimately won't suffer the consequences of the work they're doing, then weaponizing the output of that work against the group of people here who refused to enable them in the first place.
eesmith 2y ago
Seen by many European immigrants. The poem was written one year after the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882. In the Immigration Act of 1917, the US excluded people from British India. Hardly an example of "welcoming [all] immigrants."
blased 2y ago
The US is not an open-borders free-for-all and even during the time period you're citing related to the random poem the immigration was relatively limited. Everyone understood the necessity to properly assimilate foreigners, and therefore there were periods of moratoriums to preserve American culture.