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Disempowered workers is the whole point of the H1B program. Also, what is the point of importing all this labor to replace a local labor pool when we have a glo

Disempowered workers is the whole point of the H1B program. Also, what is the point of importing all this labor to replace a local labor pool when we have a global internet, zoom, GitHub, basically free international calls, etc. If works needs to be done on site, why not move the company to India or whoever the labor is needed so it’s not so disruptive to families and workers?

facialwipe 2y ago
If works needs to be done on site, why not move the company to India It’s cheaper to transport Indian services than transport Indian goods.
kylehotchkiss 2y ago
For real. Elon should just open up a large Bangalore office. He would have no shortage of the best and brightest (Tesla is highly regarded in India, right?) and that would help give him more leverage to reduce pricing there, and given how many Indians I see driving Teslas in USA, BMW/Mercedes/audi there would have good reasons to worry. I’m not anti H1B at all, I more think it’s a shame how limited they are to just tech. Please oh please bring us more doctors. Our stupid arbitrary caps on annual doctors produced is part of the healthcare cost problem. Even if we dropped that, we’ve already brainwashed ourselves to believe med school is a 6+ figure expense
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- ghufran_syed 2y ago
  H1b visas are not limited to tech, doctors and other professions can use them too. In fact, it's easier to get an H1B as a doctor, since many hospitals are non-profit, so the number of such H1B visas is not numerically limited
brookst 2y ago
I think your second point answers your first: it is better for the US to import talent than to export companies, so if that’s the choice then these programs are no-brainers. But what I fear is the belief that it is better to have a poorly educated populace plus imported talent than it is to have a well educated populace. That seems to be the real policy issue here and it’s kind of terrifying.
surfingdino 2y ago
> ... what is the point of importing all this labor to replace a local labor pool when we have a global internet Control. They are easier to control and bully than people working remotely.
- bediger4000 2y ago
  That's an under-regarded source for a lot of odd business behavior. I would guess that directors (managers of managers) and up derive most of their job satisfaction from being obeyed, yet it's hardly mentioned.

facialwipe 2y ago

If works needs to be done on site, why not move the company to India It’s cheaper to transport Indian services than transport Indian goods.

kylehotchkiss 2y ago

For real. Elon should just open up a large Bangalore office. He would have no shortage of the best and brightest (Tesla is highly regarded in India, right?) and that would help give him more leverage to reduce pricing there, and given how many Indians I see driving Teslas in USA, BMW/Mercedes/audi there would have good reasons to worry. I’m not anti H1B at all, I more think it’s a shame how limited they are to just tech. Please oh please bring us more doctors. Our stupid arbitrary caps on annual doctors produced is part of the healthcare cost problem. Even if we dropped that, we’ve already brainwashed ourselves to believe med school is a 6+ figure expense

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ghufran_syed 2y ago
H1b visas are not limited to tech, doctors and other professions can use them too. In fact, it's easier to get an H1B as a doctor, since many hospitals are non-profit, so the number of such H1B visas is not numerically limited

brookst 2y ago

I think your second point answers your first: it is better for the US to import talent than to export companies, so if that’s the choice then these programs are no-brainers. But what I fear is the belief that it is better to have a poorly educated populace plus imported talent than it is to have a well educated populace. That seems to be the real policy issue here and it’s kind of terrifying.

surfingdino 2y ago

> ... what is the point of importing all this labor to replace a local labor pool when we have a global internet Control. They are easier to control and bully than people working remotely.

bediger4000 2y ago
That's an under-regarded source for a lot of odd business behavior. I would guess that directors (managers of managers) and up derive most of their job satisfaction from being obeyed, yet it's hardly mentioned.