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I actually get annoyed when experienced folks say this isn't AGI, its next word predict and not human-like intelligence. But we don't know how human intelligenc

I actually get annoyed when experienced folks say this isn't AGI, its next word predict and not human-like intelligence. But we don't know how human intelligence works. Is it also just a matrix of neuron weights? Maybe it ends up looking like humans are also just next-word/thought predictors. Maybe that is what AGI will be.

miki123211 2y ago
A good enough next-word predictor IS AGI. If there's something that you can prompt with e.g. "here's the proof for Fermat's last theorem" or "here is how you crack Satoshi's private key on a laptop in under an hour" and get a useful response, that's AGI. Just to be clear, we are nowhere near that point with our current LLMs, and it's possible that we'll never get there, but in principle, if such a thing existed, it would be a next-word predictor while still being AGI.
mewpmewp2 2y ago
This by the common definition isn't AGI yet, not to say it couldn't be. But if it was AGI it would be extremely clear, since it would also be able to control the physical form of itself. It needs robotics and to be able to navigate the world to be able to be AGI.
latexr 2y ago
> I actually get annoyed when experienced folks say this isn't AGI, its next word predict and not human-like intelligence. But we don't know how human intelligence works. I’m pretty sure you’re committing a logical fallacy there. Like someone in antiquity claiming “I get annoyed when experienced folks say thunderstorms aren’t the gods getting angry, it’s nature and physical phenomena. But we don’t know how the weather works”. Your lack of understanding in one area does not give you the authority to make a claim in another.
deterministic 2y ago
A human can learn from just a few examples of chairs what a chair is. Machine learning requires way more training than that. So there does seem to be a difference in how human intelligence works.

miki123211 2y ago

A good enough next-word predictor IS AGI. If there's something that you can prompt with e.g. "here's the proof for Fermat's last theorem" or "here is how you crack Satoshi's private key on a laptop in under an hour" and get a useful response, that's AGI. Just to be clear, we are nowhere near that point with our current LLMs, and it's possible that we'll never get there, but in principle, if such a thing existed, it would be a next-word predictor while still being AGI.

mewpmewp2 2y ago

This by the common definition isn't AGI yet, not to say it couldn't be. But if it was AGI it would be extremely clear, since it would also be able to control the physical form of itself. It needs robotics and to be able to navigate the world to be able to be AGI.

latexr 2y ago

> I actually get annoyed when experienced folks say this isn't AGI, its next word predict and not human-like intelligence. But we don't know how human intelligence works. I’m pretty sure you’re committing a logical fallacy there. Like someone in antiquity claiming “I get annoyed when experienced folks say thunderstorms aren’t the gods getting angry, it’s nature and physical phenomena. But we don’t know how the weather works”. Your lack of understanding in one area does not give you the authority to make a claim in another.

deterministic 2y ago

A human can learn from just a few examples of chairs what a chair is. Machine learning requires way more training than that. So there does seem to be a difference in how human intelligence works.