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> Guys, we're all programmers, or designers, or both. I'm quite certain HN participant aren't all programmers or designers. They're not all guys, either.

by edj 14y ago

blhack 14y ago
"Guys" is the gender-neutral term for a group of mixed gender people. Here is an interesting discussion on the topic: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11816/is-guy-gender-neutral http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11816/is-guy-gend... Also if this is confusing, I'd suggest taking classes on a language other than English. I know that at least in French, mixed-gender-groups take the masculine plural form. In fact, here is another discussion (same site): http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/19074/what-is-a-feminine-version-of-guys http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/19074/what-is-a-f... "Guys" can also refer to a group of women.
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- panacea 14y ago
  I often leave work by saying 'cheers guys' or 'have a good evening guys' to a mixed gender group and then ponder in the elevator down if, perhaps, I've offended females with my casual nomenclature? I think it probably is slightly misogynistic. Not my personal intent, but inherited from history? What term could I use instead? 'Guys and Gals' seems old fashioned and too wordy. And the set order of the list might imply something. 'People' seems too cold. I reckon using "guys" as a gender-neutral term for a mixed gender bunch is ok.
  - batista 14y ago
    >I think it probably is slightly misogynistic. Not my personal intent, but inherited from history? Do you _hate_ women? If not, then it's not misogynistic. Enough already with the stupid guilt trips over everything and anything!
Danieru 14y ago
'Guys' is often used as gender neutral address to groups: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/guys http://www.thefreedictionary.com/guys
batista 14y ago
>I'm quite certain HN participant aren't all programmers or designers. They're not all guys, either. Wishful thinking aside, I would guess that the percentage that are not: "(programmers || designers) && guys" is insignificant. Care to start a poll?

> Guys, we're all programmers, or designers, or both. I'm quite certain HN participant aren't all programmers or designers. They're not all guys, either.

by edj 14y ago

> Guys, we're all programmers, or designers, or both. I'm quite certain HN participant aren't all programmers or designers. They're not all guys, either.

blhack 14y ago

"Guys" is the gender-neutral term for a group of mixed gender people. Here is an interesting discussion on the topic: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11816/is-guy-gender-neutral http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/11816/is-guy-gend... Also if this is confusing, I'd suggest taking classes on a language other than English. I know that at least in French, mixed-gender-groups take the masculine plural form. In fact, here is another discussion (same site): http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/19074/what-is-a-feminine-version-of-guys http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/19074/what-is-a-f... "Guys" can also refer to a group of women.

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panacea 14y ago
I often leave work by saying 'cheers guys' or 'have a good evening guys' to a mixed gender group and then ponder in the elevator down if, perhaps, I've offended females with my casual nomenclature? I think it probably is slightly misogynistic. Not my personal intent, but inherited from history? What term could I use instead? 'Guys and Gals' seems old fashioned and too wordy. And the set order of the list might imply something. 'People' seems too cold. I reckon using "guys" as a gender-neutral term for a mixed gender bunch is ok.
- batista 14y ago
  >I think it probably is slightly misogynistic. Not my personal intent, but inherited from history? Do you _hate_ women? If not, then it's not misogynistic. Enough already with the stupid guilt trips over everything and anything!

Danieru 14y ago

'Guys' is often used as gender neutral address to groups: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/guys http://www.thefreedictionary.com/guys

batista 14y ago

>I'm quite certain HN participant aren't all programmers or designers. They're not all guys, either. Wishful thinking aside, I would guess that the percentage that are not: "(programmers || designers) && guys" is insignificant. Care to start a poll?