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It’s actually possible to make a positive comment about something and for it to be sincere. These are not mutually exclusive. Though it seems if there’s a posi

by sevg 2y ago

It’s actually possible to make a positive comment about something and for it to be sincere. These are not mutually exclusive. Though it seems if there’s a positive comment about a terminal that you don’t personally think deserves it, the commenter must be a shill. Honestly quite bizarre how this sub-thread has turned out. What I thought was an innocent comment, you’ve turned into ghostty vs kitty. Not everything has to be turned into Vim vs Emacs, systemd vs anti-systemd, or which is objectively the best terminal. It’s possible to be impressed with ghostty’s release velocity without it being a judgment about Kitty or any other terminal or software project. But alas, in order to make a positive comment about ghostty, I must have already had a proven history of making positive comments about other terminals ;)

aumerle 2y ago
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- sevg 2y ago
  Personal attack? I just said it was interesting you mostly only comment about Kitty. Which is factually true. (It’s also not a criticism to be singularly passionate about something.) I’m often curious about people’s previous comments, it’s not some decision I made to research your comment history. I make one, single, lone comment about ghostty. You regularly (almost exclusively) seize opportunities to talk about Kitty, especially in threads that are about other terminals. And I’m the shill? Ok. You’ve also successfully set the goalposts up such that, even if I did have something to prove to you (which I don’t), I can’t prove anything anyway! It’s impossible to prove what terminal I use or don’t use. And impossible to go back and change my comment history. So, well played I guess ;)
  - aumerle 2y ago
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    - sevg 2y ago
      > To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already know a shop with better roses. It’s just a comment, not a declaration of superiority. It actually doesn’t matter if another shop sells better roses, it doesn’t make the initial comment wrong, worthless and worth shooting down. Now let’s say 5 days after the shop opens, they leave the doors and till unlocked and the local news posts an article about it on the front page. The shop owner reacts quickly to improve security. A little embarrassing perhaps. So seeing this, I think to say something encouraging instead of piling on negativity, because new businesses can be good for people but also face a lot of challenges. Basically, something called empathy :)
      - aumerle 2y ago
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        sevg 2y ago
        > And I didn't feel the need to resort to personally attacking you to try to make my point. Something you should learn from. Coming from the person repeatedly calling me a shill and a liar? Don’t make me laugh! It seems you still don’t get it. You are the one that has turned this into ghostty vs kitty, not me. I suspect you understand the flower shop analogy but are just ignoring it because it doesn’t help your argument. At no point have I said that ghostty is better than kitty ;) I’m still using kitty as we speak, so my usual flower shop hasn’t changed. It’s kind of sad that you are so upset that someone on the internet could possibly be impressed with ghostty’s 1.0.1 release notes. I have little interest in your take on it, because it is needlessly trolling on an innocent comment. Possibly you should take note from the downvotes and flags on your comments here. No doubt you will blame the army of ghostty shills who have organised themselves into a globally coordinated voting ring. As for me, I take it as a signal that what you have to say on this thread isn’t particularly interesting or worth replying to.

by sevg 2y ago

aumerle 2y ago

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sevg 2y ago
Personal attack? I just said it was interesting you mostly only comment about Kitty. Which is factually true. (It’s also not a criticism to be singularly passionate about something.) I’m often curious about people’s previous comments, it’s not some decision I made to research your comment history. I make one, single, lone comment about ghostty. You regularly (almost exclusively) seize opportunities to talk about Kitty, especially in threads that are about other terminals. And I’m the shill? Ok. You’ve also successfully set the goalposts up such that, even if I did have something to prove to you (which I don’t), I can’t prove anything anyway! It’s impossible to prove what terminal I use or don’t use. And impossible to go back and change my comment history. So, well played I guess ;)
- aumerle 2y ago
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  - sevg 2y ago
    > To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already know a shop with better roses. It’s just a comment, not a declaration of superiority. It actually doesn’t matter if another shop sells better roses, it doesn’t make the initial comment wrong, worthless and worth shooting down. Now let’s say 5 days after the shop opens, they leave the doors and till unlocked and the local news posts an article about it on the front page. The shop owner reacts quickly to improve security. A little embarrassing perhaps. So seeing this, I think to say something encouraging instead of piling on negativity, because new businesses can be good for people but also face a lot of challenges. Basically, something called empathy :)
    - aumerle 2y ago
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      - sevg 2y ago
        > And I didn't feel the need to resort to personally attacking you to try to make my point. Something you should learn from. Coming from the person repeatedly calling me a shill and a liar? Don’t make me laugh! It seems you still don’t get it. You are the one that has turned this into ghostty vs kitty, not me. I suspect you understand the flower shop analogy but are just ignoring it because it doesn’t help your argument. At no point have I said that ghostty is better than kitty ;) I’m still using kitty as we speak, so my usual flower shop hasn’t changed. It’s kind of sad that you are so upset that someone on the internet could possibly be impressed with ghostty’s 1.0.1 release notes. I have little interest in your take on it, because it is needlessly trolling on an innocent comment. Possibly you should take note from the downvotes and flags on your comments here. No doubt you will blame the army of ghostty shills who have organised themselves into a globally coordinated voting ring. As for me, I take it as a signal that what you have to say on this thread isn’t particularly interesting or worth replying to.