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What a strange reply. Kitty has been my terminal for years. I haven’t even used ghostty. I’m not shilling anything. Good grief. Try looking in a mirror. I was

by sevg 2y ago

What a strange reply. Kitty has been my terminal for years. I haven’t even used ghostty. I’m not shilling anything. Good grief. Try looking in a mirror. I was making a good faith comment just adding something positive. No need to turn it into a war. It’s strange (and just wrong) that you think I need to review the development velocity of all other projects before being impressed by something. Actually, no. To be impressed by the rainbow outside my window, I need not have seen and reviewed all other rainbows.

aumerle 2y ago
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- sevg 2y ago
  Implying I’m a liar is a silly cheap shot. I’ve made zero HN comments about Firefox, Thunderbird and Blender. But I must be lying when I say I use those every day. You seem to have interpreted my original comment as a declaration of ghostty’s superiority. It wasn’t. Not every positive comment about a piece of software must also be interpreted as an attack on another piece of software, such that you have to come to its defence. Though perhaps you will tell me I’m forbidden from being impressed by any terminal other than Kitty, and certainly not God-forbid actually share that thought on HN!
  - aumerle 2y ago
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    - sevg 2y ago
      It’s actually possible to make a positive comment about something and for it to be sincere. These are not mutually exclusive. Though it seems if there’s a positive comment about a terminal that you don’t personally think deserves it, the commenter must be a shill. Honestly quite bizarre how this sub-thread has turned out. What I thought was an innocent comment, you’ve turned into ghostty vs kitty. Not everything has to be turned into Vim vs Emacs, systemd vs anti-systemd, or which is objectively the best terminal. It’s possible to be impressed with ghostty’s release velocity without it being a judgment about Kitty or any other terminal or software project. But alas, in order to make a positive comment about ghostty, I must have already had a proven history of making positive comments about other terminals ;)
      - aumerle 2y ago
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        sevg 2y ago
        Personal attack? I just said it was interesting you mostly only comment about Kitty. Which is factually true. (It’s also not a criticism to be singularly passionate about something.) I’m often curious about people’s previous comments, it’s not some decision I made to research your comment history. I make one, single, lone comment about ghostty. You regularly (almost exclusively) seize opportunities to talk about Kitty, especially in threads that are about other terminals. And I’m the shill? Ok. You’ve also successfully set the goalposts up such that, even if I did have something to prove to you (which I don’t), I can’t prove anything anyway! It’s impossible to prove what terminal I use or don’t use. And impossible to go back and change my comment history. So, well played I guess ;)
        aumerle 2y ago
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        sevg 2y ago
        > To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already know a shop with better roses. It’s just a comment, not a declaration of superiority. It actually doesn’t matter if another shop sells better roses, it doesn’t make the initial comment wrong, worthless and worth shooting down. Now let’s say 5 days after the shop opens, they leave the doors and till unlocked and the local news posts an article about it on the front page. The shop owner reacts quickly to improve security. A little embarrassing perhaps. So seeing this, I think to say something encouraging instead of piling on negativity, because new businesses can be good for people but also face a lot of challenges. Basically, something called empathy :)

by sevg 2y ago

aumerle 2y ago

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sevg 2y ago
Implying I’m a liar is a silly cheap shot. I’ve made zero HN comments about Firefox, Thunderbird and Blender. But I must be lying when I say I use those every day. You seem to have interpreted my original comment as a declaration of ghostty’s superiority. It wasn’t. Not every positive comment about a piece of software must also be interpreted as an attack on another piece of software, such that you have to come to its defence. Though perhaps you will tell me I’m forbidden from being impressed by any terminal other than Kitty, and certainly not God-forbid actually share that thought on HN!
- aumerle 2y ago
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  - sevg 2y ago
    It’s actually possible to make a positive comment about something and for it to be sincere. These are not mutually exclusive. Though it seems if there’s a positive comment about a terminal that you don’t personally think deserves it, the commenter must be a shill. Honestly quite bizarre how this sub-thread has turned out. What I thought was an innocent comment, you’ve turned into ghostty vs kitty. Not everything has to be turned into Vim vs Emacs, systemd vs anti-systemd, or which is objectively the best terminal. It’s possible to be impressed with ghostty’s release velocity without it being a judgment about Kitty or any other terminal or software project. But alas, in order to make a positive comment about ghostty, I must have already had a proven history of making positive comments about other terminals ;)
    - aumerle 2y ago
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      - sevg 2y ago
        Personal attack? I just said it was interesting you mostly only comment about Kitty. Which is factually true. (It’s also not a criticism to be singularly passionate about something.) I’m often curious about people’s previous comments, it’s not some decision I made to research your comment history. I make one, single, lone comment about ghostty. You regularly (almost exclusively) seize opportunities to talk about Kitty, especially in threads that are about other terminals. And I’m the shill? Ok. You’ve also successfully set the goalposts up such that, even if I did have something to prove to you (which I don’t), I can’t prove anything anyway! It’s impossible to prove what terminal I use or don’t use. And impossible to go back and change my comment history. So, well played I guess ;)
        aumerle 2y ago
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        sevg 2y ago
        > To wit, ghostty does not actually have a fast release velocity compared to its peers. Sigh. I’ll explain again but seems like you don’t want to listen either ;) My original comment didn’t have to spark a comparison war. If I walk past a new flower shop in my village and remark at how beautiful the roses look, it isn’t criticizing all other flower shops and or saying this one has the best roses. Maybe I even already know a shop with better roses. It’s just a comment, not a declaration of superiority. It actually doesn’t matter if another shop sells better roses, it doesn’t make the initial comment wrong, worthless and worth shooting down. Now let’s say 5 days after the shop opens, they leave the doors and till unlocked and the local news posts an article about it on the front page. The shop owner reacts quickly to improve security. A little embarrassing perhaps. So seeing this, I think to say something encouraging instead of piling on negativity, because new businesses can be good for people but also face a lot of challenges. Basically, something called empathy :)