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I’m impressed with how many bugs (security and otherwise) have been fixed and new features included [0] in the 1.0.1 release, considering the first public relea

by sevg 2y ago

I’m impressed with how many bugs (security and otherwise) have been fixed and new features included [0] in the 1.0.1 release, considering the first public release (1.0) was only 5 days ago. [0]: https://ghostty.org/docs/install/release-notes/1-0-1 https://ghostty.org/docs/install/release-notes/1-0-1

aumerle 2y ago
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- sevg 2y ago
  It’s interesting how singularly passionate you are about Kitty, with almost all of your comments for the last year (or longer) being about Kitty. Don’t you have something more interesting to do with your time than to find opportunities to say: nah Kitty is better ;) I was just finding something to be impressed about, considering it has only just gone public and open source (as opposed to a mature project with established GitHub presence and flow of contributions).
  - aumerle 2y ago
    Yup kitty revolutionized my terminal experience, hence the passion. I am sorry but since you seem to be passionate enough about ghostty to try to shill it in a article about a security vulnerability in it, I don't think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about my posts. If you want to claim that ghostty is developed very rapidly it behoves you to do a little research and compare it against its peers before making that claim.
    - sevg 2y ago
      What a strange reply. Kitty has been my terminal for years. I haven’t even used ghostty. I’m not shilling anything. Good grief. Try looking in a mirror. I was making a good faith comment just adding something positive. No need to turn it into a war. It’s strange (and just wrong) that you think I need to review the development velocity of all other projects before being impressed by something. Actually, no. To be impressed by the rainbow outside my window, I need not have seen and reviewed all other rainbows.
      - aumerle 2y ago
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        sevg 2y ago
        Implying I’m a liar is a silly cheap shot. I’ve made zero HN comments about Firefox, Thunderbird and Blender. But I must be lying when I say I use those every day. You seem to have interpreted my original comment as a declaration of ghostty’s superiority. It wasn’t. Not every positive comment about a piece of software must also be interpreted as an attack on another piece of software, such that you have to come to its defence. Though perhaps you will tell me I’m forbidden from being impressed by any terminal other than Kitty, and certainly not God-forbid actually share that thought on HN!
        aumerle 2y ago
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        sevg 2y ago
        It’s actually possible to make a positive comment about something and for it to be sincere. These are not mutually exclusive. Though it seems if there’s a positive comment about a terminal that you don’t personally think deserves it, the commenter must be a shill. Honestly quite bizarre how this sub-thread has turned out. What I thought was an innocent comment, you’ve turned into ghostty vs kitty. Not everything has to be turned into Vim vs Emacs, systemd vs anti-systemd, or which is objectively the best terminal. It’s possible to be impressed with ghostty’s release velocity without it being a judgment about Kitty or any other terminal or software project. But alas, in order to make a positive comment about ghostty, I must have already had a proven history of making positive comments about other terminals ;)
        aumerle 2y ago
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  - throwawaykitten 2y ago
    FYI: aumerle is kitty's maintainer. i don't know why he is talking about the project as if unaffiliated.
    - sevg 2y ago
      Oh boy, that actually explains a lot! And this whole time he was accusing me of being insincere XD Also explains why he suddenly had no time to talk further when ghostty’s author offered to have a call elsewhere in this thread. Just here to advertise his terminal. I must say, I quite like how ghostty’s author has conducted himself. Might give ghostty a try once it’s packaged for my distro and first few rounds of bugfixes are in.
    - fmajid 2y ago
      Like Julius Caesar, who used to write about himself in the third person laudative demonstrative ("ille")?
    - saagarjha 2y ago
      Like, this is Kovid? This has to be a violation of the site guidelines.
      - throwawaykitten 2y ago
        yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13342516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13342516
        saagarjha 2y ago
        For what it's worth I have reached out to 'dang about this because I think it is completely unacceptable to do this on the site.
        sevg 2y ago
        Would be interested to know the outcome later :)
- mitchellh 2y ago
  Kitty is a great terminal and Kovid does excellent work. I have a ton of respect for him. Ghostty (disclaimer: I’m the creator) could also be and I appreciate anyone who thinks so. There doesn’t have to be a winner/loser mentality! The big picture is to get more people to use the terminal more for cases it’s good for. Infighting amongst people who already like terminals is counter productive, in my opinion.
- pwdisswordfishz 2y ago
  Oh, did he start actually fixing vulnerabilities instead of insisting they aren't there while repeatedly being given PoC exploits? In case someone didn't know, the infamous Calibre bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027 https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027
- rurban 2y ago
  Actually usable now, or still entirely insecure?
- throwawaykitten 2y ago
  it's good practice to note when you're the maintainer :) still if you insist on direct comparison, ghostty addressed 5x as many issues in half the time

by sevg 2y ago

aumerle 2y ago

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sevg 2y ago
It’s interesting how singularly passionate you are about Kitty, with almost all of your comments for the last year (or longer) being about Kitty. Don’t you have something more interesting to do with your time than to find opportunities to say: nah Kitty is better ;) I was just finding something to be impressed about, considering it has only just gone public and open source (as opposed to a mature project with established GitHub presence and flow of contributions).
- aumerle 2y ago
  Yup kitty revolutionized my terminal experience, hence the passion. I am sorry but since you seem to be passionate enough about ghostty to try to shill it in a article about a security vulnerability in it, I don't think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about my posts. If you want to claim that ghostty is developed very rapidly it behoves you to do a little research and compare it against its peers before making that claim.
  - sevg 2y ago
    What a strange reply. Kitty has been my terminal for years. I haven’t even used ghostty. I’m not shilling anything. Good grief. Try looking in a mirror. I was making a good faith comment just adding something positive. No need to turn it into a war. It’s strange (and just wrong) that you think I need to review the development velocity of all other projects before being impressed by something. Actually, no. To be impressed by the rainbow outside my window, I need not have seen and reviewed all other rainbows.
    - aumerle 2y ago
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      - sevg 2y ago
        Implying I’m a liar is a silly cheap shot. I’ve made zero HN comments about Firefox, Thunderbird and Blender. But I must be lying when I say I use those every day. You seem to have interpreted my original comment as a declaration of ghostty’s superiority. It wasn’t. Not every positive comment about a piece of software must also be interpreted as an attack on another piece of software, such that you have to come to its defence. Though perhaps you will tell me I’m forbidden from being impressed by any terminal other than Kitty, and certainly not God-forbid actually share that thought on HN!
        aumerle 2y ago
        [flagged]
        sevg 2y ago
        It’s actually possible to make a positive comment about something and for it to be sincere. These are not mutually exclusive. Though it seems if there’s a positive comment about a terminal that you don’t personally think deserves it, the commenter must be a shill. Honestly quite bizarre how this sub-thread has turned out. What I thought was an innocent comment, you’ve turned into ghostty vs kitty. Not everything has to be turned into Vim vs Emacs, systemd vs anti-systemd, or which is objectively the best terminal. It’s possible to be impressed with ghostty’s release velocity without it being a judgment about Kitty or any other terminal or software project. But alas, in order to make a positive comment about ghostty, I must have already had a proven history of making positive comments about other terminals ;)
        aumerle 2y ago
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- throwawaykitten 2y ago
  FYI: aumerle is kitty's maintainer. i don't know why he is talking about the project as if unaffiliated.
  - sevg 2y ago
    Oh boy, that actually explains a lot! And this whole time he was accusing me of being insincere XD Also explains why he suddenly had no time to talk further when ghostty’s author offered to have a call elsewhere in this thread. Just here to advertise his terminal. I must say, I quite like how ghostty’s author has conducted himself. Might give ghostty a try once it’s packaged for my distro and first few rounds of bugfixes are in.
  - fmajid 2y ago
    Like Julius Caesar, who used to write about himself in the third person laudative demonstrative ("ille")?
  - saagarjha 2y ago
    Like, this is Kovid? This has to be a violation of the site guidelines.
    - throwawaykitten 2y ago
      yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13342516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13342516
      - saagarjha 2y ago
        For what it's worth I have reached out to 'dang about this because I think it is completely unacceptable to do this on the site.
        sevg 2y ago
        Would be interested to know the outcome later :)
mitchellh 2y ago
Kitty is a great terminal and Kovid does excellent work. I have a ton of respect for him. Ghostty (disclaimer: I’m the creator) could also be and I appreciate anyone who thinks so. There doesn’t have to be a winner/loser mentality! The big picture is to get more people to use the terminal more for cases it’s good for. Infighting amongst people who already like terminals is counter productive, in my opinion.
pwdisswordfishz 2y ago
Oh, did he start actually fixing vulnerabilities instead of insisting they aren't there while repeatedly being given PoC exploits? In case someone didn't know, the infamous Calibre bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027 https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/885027
rurban 2y ago
Actually usable now, or still entirely insecure?
throwawaykitten 2y ago
it's good practice to note when you're the maintainer :) still if you insist on direct comparison, ghostty addressed 5x as many issues in half the time