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> The filing also references Spafford’s belief in “no lives matter,” an apparent nod to a far-right ideology that primarily coordinates through encrypted apps.
by lordofgibbons 2y ago
> The filing also references Spafford’s belief in “no lives matter,” an apparent nod to a far-right ideology that primarily coordinates through encrypted apps.
That's a scary sentence. I fear this might be used to mandate backdoors into encrypted apps.
- neilv 2y agoThe journalist's bio: > I am The Hill’s national security and legal affairs reporter [...] So I assume the journalist wrote the piece themself, and knew how loaded that line was.
- NotYourLawyer 2y ago[flagged]
- wakawaka28 2y agoYour instincts are right. They parade the freaks in front of our faces to manufacture consent for all kinds of oppression. >I fear this might be used to mandate backdoors into encrypted apps. You mean above and beyond the multiple levels of surveillance now in place, including AI agents on your devices and god knows what backdoors into TLS? They already have more than most people imagine. They just don't want you to know for various reasons.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoThe sentence is accurate nonetheless.
- dotancohen 2y agoYes, implanting inaccurate ideas in peoples' worldviews via the use of not-innaccurate statements is an artform that is being perfected. This is a scary example of such.
- dialup_sounds 2y agoSo saying true things is bad now?
- dotancohen 2y agoSaying true things has always been bad when done with bad intentions. Implying that "coordinating through encrypted apps" is a property of "far-right ideologies" is a clear attempt to smear the usage of encrypted apps, assuming that the reader already has a negative association with "far-right ideologies".
- gverrilla 2y agoIt was not implied it's a "property of far right", at all. All it's saying is "no lives matter" coordinate not in public networks.
- llamaimperative 2y agoI didn’t read it that way at all.
- dialup_sounds 2y agoI don't think that's clear at all. You're both assuming "bad intentions" on the part of the author and that other readers are apt to make an association that you yourself wouldn't make. But for the sake of curiosity: How would you rephrase the same facts to not be a smear?
- luckylion 2y agoTechnically yes since communication via most messengers, forums etc are encrypted. But I assume that's not how most readers will understand that message, their mind will go towards something like encrochat, i.e. some app specifically made for illegal/terrorist/far right extremist communications. If you said "we should do something about that", that'll get a fair bit of agreement. If you said "we should do something about your browser being able to use encryption", you'll get less.
- asveikau 2y agoTo me the scariest part of that sentence is that multiple people would subscribe to a misanthropic statement like "no lives matter". We should also object to telegram being called an encrypted app. It is not encrypted by default. When you optionally enable the cryptography it has, IIRC they rolled their own ciphers and it's not considered good by anybody serious.
- e40 2y agoThe gal of post-modern propaganda is to make people believe in nothing. Nihilism through and through.
- rickandmortyy 2y ago[dead]
- raddan 2y ago“No lives matter” was also a tongue-in-cheek slogan for the “Cthulhu for President” campaign [1], which riffed on the absurdity of Trump running for president in 2016. Maybe it has morphed into something else since then. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_for_President https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_for_President
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- nosioptar 2y ago"No lives matter" is also a 2017 song by Body Count [0] about class inequality. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=hlk7o5T56iw https://youtube.com/watch?v=hlk7o5T56iw