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Yeah, still a hater. > Takes roughly 2 minutes, ok. Sure, then after 2 or 3 days it pops up again. Do you want to use OneDrive? > No Oh, too bad, You should

Yeah, still a hater. > Takes roughly 2 minutes, ok. Sure, then after 2 or 3 days it pops up again. Do you want to use OneDrive? > No Oh, too bad, You should turn it on, I will remind you in a few days. > 3 days, 5 days Oh, Sorry, never is NOT an option. How can that be acceptable! At least you know where your configuration might be! On Windows, You don't even know where your apps configurations are. Is it in some deep level underground of registry? Or in App Data, local or roaming, or somewhere else? On Linux, I know user based configs are in `.config`, and system-wide configs are in `/etc`. Some older app may store their config in home, but that's all. How is that difficult?! And everything is just text files and most of the time very nicely commented. And I probably never needed to touch anything in `/etc` for almost over a year, unless I am messing with something. > Search is not even available for multiple Linux DEs. What?! Gnome has excellent application search, Win + one or two key presses I can launch my app, and it's actually consistent. No ads inserted randomly to interrupt my muscle memory. KDE also have it. In i3 I can use `rofi` to do the same. > MSI and GPO exist. Most serious applications nowadays have auto-updaters. Others often need no updates. Oh, lol. How can one excuse the mess of going to each application's website, download binaries and install, and then let each and every app phone home to check for update, and then go through the upgrade dialogs, keeping watch if the app has inserted any search box or toolbar opt-outs? That is just absurd! I can just run `yay -S --noconfirm` and put password, and my update kicks in. Most of the apps are not bothered if I am running their latest version or not. > Works near perfectly for 2 billion users. Because, again, it's only feeding on the legacy, and because people pay the Windows Tax, without knowing, or in my country, it was easily available with new purchases for free (Piracy). IF, people had to install Windows by themselves, I can confidently say, most of the people would stay far, far away from it. > Barely works for its 40 million users, riddled with bugs/regressions and missing features. I have been using Linux for 20+ years. I am not riddled by any of those 'bugs' and 'regressions', funny thing is, sometimes there are minor hitches, but again, they are minor. And if I face a problem, I can communicate with the respected community, and get a solution. For Windows, which is a black box, you never know if you'll get any solution for your inconveniences. Like, getting rid of OneDrive, permanently. Or File explorer getting stuck indefinitely for hours after hour, and there's no solution to it. The client suffered for almost years, and he had no way to reinstall.

itvision 2y ago
> Sure, then after 2 or 3 days it pops up again. Citations needed. Doesn't happen to anyone else but you. > Oh, too bad, You should turn it on, I will remind you in a few days. > 3 days, 5 days Oh, Sorry, never is NOT an option. Again 5 minutes of Googling disables it. > On Windows, You don't even know where your apps configurations are. In Linux they can be in a dozen of different locations as well. And Gnome even has (had?) a sort of registry. > What?! Gnome has excellent application search, Win + one or two key presses I can launch my app, and it's actually consistent. No ads inserted randomly to interrupt my muscle memory. "I use Gnome/KDE and I don't give a damn about all other DEs." Got it! > How can one excuse the mess of going to each application's website, download binaries and install, and then let each and every app phone home to check for update, and then go through the upgrade dialogs, keeping watch if the app has inserted any search box or toolbar opt-outs? That is just absurd! I can just run `yay -S --noconfirm` and put password, and my update kicks in. Most of the apps are not bothered if I am running their latest version or not. Most serious Windows software doesn't need manual updates. Windows and MS Office update themselves. Adobe, Corel and 3dMax products do so as well. Tiny utilities? Who cares? They just work. It's Linux where people get obsessed with updates because there's no API/ABI compatibility per se and you have no choice. In Windows? Run something from 20 years ago and don't bother. > Because, again, it's only feeding on the legacy, and because people pay the Windows Tax, $10 tax. Yeah. I've spent hundreds of hours fixing Linux. No tax at all. > I am not riddled by any of those 'bugs' and 'regressions', funny thing is, sometimes there are minor hitches, but again, they are minor. Anecdotal evidence rears its ugly head AGAIN AGAIN AND AGAIN. "If it works me for Linux is perfect". Never mind people who actually do the dirty work of fixing hundreds of regressions every Linux kernel release. Nothing ever changes with the Linux cult. "It works for me, I'm a seasoned developer, I know my way around console, Linux must work for everyone". Even in this discussion this has been repeated ad nauseam. F it. I'm out.
- t_mahmood 2y ago
  If you're approach to fix things in Linux like the way you talk about Linux, no wonder you spent hundreds of hours fixing it. Work smarter not harder. It's neither about if it works for me, it works for everyone, nor it should be, if it doesn't work for me then it doesn't work for everyone. You're making some points, that most of us Linux users knows to be wrong, and pointing it out. You're just a hater, with some outdated information about Linux. Obviously Linux is not for everyone, no one is saying it is. But it provides a open, no bullshit, interruption free, environment, that I own, not some corporate doing business with my data. That is alone enough to me, and many other Please don't let the door hit you on the way out

itvision 2y ago

> Sure, then after 2 or 3 days it pops up again. Citations needed. Doesn't happen to anyone else but you. > Oh, too bad, You should turn it on, I will remind you in a few days. > 3 days, 5 days Oh, Sorry, never is NOT an option. Again 5 minutes of Googling disables it. > On Windows, You don't even know where your apps configurations are. In Linux they can be in a dozen of different locations as well. And Gnome even has (had?) a sort of registry. > What?! Gnome has excellent application search, Win + one or two key presses I can launch my app, and it's actually consistent. No ads inserted randomly to interrupt my muscle memory. "I use Gnome/KDE and I don't give a damn about all other DEs." Got it! > How can one excuse the mess of going to each application's website, download binaries and install, and then let each and every app phone home to check for update, and then go through the upgrade dialogs, keeping watch if the app has inserted any search box or toolbar opt-outs? That is just absurd! I can just run `yay -S --noconfirm` and put password, and my update kicks in. Most of the apps are not bothered if I am running their latest version or not. Most serious Windows software doesn't need manual updates. Windows and MS Office update themselves. Adobe, Corel and 3dMax products do so as well. Tiny utilities? Who cares? They just work. It's Linux where people get obsessed with updates because there's no API/ABI compatibility per se and you have no choice. In Windows? Run something from 20 years ago and don't bother. > Because, again, it's only feeding on the legacy, and because people pay the Windows Tax, $10 tax. Yeah. I've spent hundreds of hours fixing Linux. No tax at all. > I am not riddled by any of those 'bugs' and 'regressions', funny thing is, sometimes there are minor hitches, but again, they are minor. Anecdotal evidence rears its ugly head AGAIN AGAIN AND AGAIN. "If it works me for Linux is perfect". Never mind people who actually do the dirty work of fixing hundreds of regressions every Linux kernel release. Nothing ever changes with the Linux cult. "It works for me, I'm a seasoned developer, I know my way around console, Linux must work for everyone". Even in this discussion this has been repeated ad nauseam. F it. I'm out.

t_mahmood 2y ago
If you're approach to fix things in Linux like the way you talk about Linux, no wonder you spent hundreds of hours fixing it. Work smarter not harder. It's neither about if it works for me, it works for everyone, nor it should be, if it doesn't work for me then it doesn't work for everyone. You're making some points, that most of us Linux users knows to be wrong, and pointing it out. You're just a hater, with some outdated information about Linux. Obviously Linux is not for everyone, no one is saying it is. But it provides a open, no bullshit, interruption free, environment, that I own, not some corporate doing business with my data. That is alone enough to me, and many other Please don't let the door hit you on the way out