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Could you be specific about what constitutes "a rant"? And no I've spent far less time "fixing" Windows. In fact I don't remember doing that ever. I've had mul

Could you be specific about what constitutes "a rant"? And no I've spent far less time "fixing" Windows. In fact I don't remember doing that ever. I've had multiple cases when Windows stopped booting and in absolute most of them I just had to reinstall the system from scratch. That's all "I've wasted". Linux on the other hand? "It works for you everything is made up in the article". Never mind how once I had to fix a glaring issue in the Linux kernel which rendered tens of thousands of systems unbootable and which took me over 24 hours of hard work to unravel. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206175 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206175 Yeah, indeed I've never had anything like that in Windows in 30+ years that I've been using it. Never once a Windows update rendered the system completely dead. And I'm not talking about my system, I talking about hundreds. Lastly I'm just a poor Linux kernel bugzilla maintainer who actually overlooks a lot of stuff and sees a staggering number of fixes in every stable Linux release. I follow way too many bug trackers and LKML as well. It's all good, please disperse.

senko 2y ago
> And no I've spent far less time "fixing" Windows. [...] I just had to reinstall the system from scratch. That's one way of dealing with it. > Never mind how once I had to fix a glaring issue in the Linux kernel which rendered tens of thousands of systems unbootable. You didn't have to fix it, you could've booted the old kernel. You chose to debug the issue and help. That's commendable, but do you think people (who work on Windows or hardware, or in IT departments in any organization) don't do that for Windows as well? > And I'm not talking about my system, I talking about hundreds. Is it tens of thousands, or hundreds? > Lastly I'm just a poor Linux kernel bugzilla maintainer who actually overlooks a lot of stuff and sees a staggering number of fixes in every stable Linux release. I follow way too many bug trackers and LKML as well. Well if you're Linux kernel bugzilla maintainer, it's natural that you see many more Linux bugs than Windows or MacOS bugs. Again, commendable that you choose to participate, help, and make it better! You choose to live on the bleeding edge, and so you bleed. But that's far from typical Linux desktop user experience. > Could you be specific about what constitutes "a rant"? Well, your entire comment is a rant: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant You're obviously very passionate about, and involved with, Linux. But you also seem to hate it so I'm confused why do it? Buy a Mac, be happy, live and let live, etc.
- itvision 2y ago
  > That's one way of dealing with it. Windows can be reinstalled, Linux bugs never go away by themselves. > You chose to debug the issue and help. No, people don't do that in Windows because Microsoft has much better QA/QC. Not a single Windows update since 1998 has rendered my system unbootable. Microsoft is certainly not perfect and Windows sometimes has regression but those normally affect very few people. > Is it tens of thousands, or hundreds? Windows installation user base: 2 billion. Linux: 40 million. Have fun with mental gymnastics. > You choose to live on the bleeding edge, and so you bleed. There's a huge number of bugs affecting "stable" Linux distros that use "stable" software including the kernel. Linux bugs are not specific to the bleeding edge but they are more prominent. Here: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219638 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219638 > Well, your entire comment is a rant: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant This is not a counter argument and I will not waste any more of my time with you. Try using the dictionary argument with your children, "You are a retard, my boy! Why? Look it up in the Merriam Webster dictionary, that's why".
Draiken 2y ago
You literally have to reinstall windows because of how broken it got, and that's somehow okay? The amount of BSOD I've seen and unfixable issues after spending hours googling and browsing windows shitty support sites are just the tip of the iceberg. Windows is utter trash and the only reason it won is because of the monopoly it established, forcing everyone to use it, hardware manufacturers to support it and once the dominance was established, you can't escape it. MacOS is literally only used with hardware lock-in. People don't choose it. It's forced onto whoever chooses to overpay for an Apple computer. The only reason Linux won't win the desktop is because it doesn't have a monopoly to support it. These discussions that pretend any of this is due to merits of one OS over the other are moot. It doesn't matter at all when it comes to who or how many people use it. These are all determined by external factors.
- itvision 2y ago
  > You literally have to reinstall windows because of how broken it got, and that's somehow okay? Last time I did it was in the Windows XP SP0 days. > The amount of BSOD I've seen and unfixable issues after spending hours googling and browsing windows shitty support sites are just the tip of the iceberg. When was the last time you got BSOD? I've not seen them after Vista. > The only reason Linux won't win the desktop is because it doesn't have a monopoly to support it. "Win"? Start with software compatibility. There's no one Linux, there's a billion of incompatible distros that make it impossible to run old software. > These discussions that pretend any of this is due to merits of one OS over the other are moot. API and ABI compatibility are swear words to you, I get it. I'm sorry if you don't care about those, the world will shrug you off. No other OS has this madness. > by external factors. Yeah, for Linux fans it's always someone or something else. The fact that Linux is a bug-ridden mess of software with no compatibility and no stability isn't an issue of course. It's because Microsoft/Oracle/NVIDIA actively interfere with Linux. Or aliens? Must be aliens.
  - Draiken 2y ago
    Wow, I guess some people are such die hard fans that they try to mention "aliens" instead of giving a semblance of an argument. Keep your ad ridden Windows mate, you clearly deserve it. Not worth my time to answer this low level of a reply.

senko 2y ago

> And no I've spent far less time "fixing" Windows. [...] I just had to reinstall the system from scratch. That's one way of dealing with it. > Never mind how once I had to fix a glaring issue in the Linux kernel which rendered tens of thousands of systems unbootable. You didn't have to fix it, you could've booted the old kernel. You chose to debug the issue and help. That's commendable, but do you think people (who work on Windows or hardware, or in IT departments in any organization) don't do that for Windows as well? > And I'm not talking about my system, I talking about hundreds. Is it tens of thousands, or hundreds? > Lastly I'm just a poor Linux kernel bugzilla maintainer who actually overlooks a lot of stuff and sees a staggering number of fixes in every stable Linux release. I follow way too many bug trackers and LKML as well. Well if you're Linux kernel bugzilla maintainer, it's natural that you see many more Linux bugs than Windows or MacOS bugs. Again, commendable that you choose to participate, help, and make it better! You choose to live on the bleeding edge, and so you bleed. But that's far from typical Linux desktop user experience. > Could you be specific about what constitutes "a rant"? Well, your entire comment is a rant: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant You're obviously very passionate about, and involved with, Linux. But you also seem to hate it so I'm confused why do it? Buy a Mac, be happy, live and let live, etc.

itvision 2y ago
> That's one way of dealing with it. Windows can be reinstalled, Linux bugs never go away by themselves. > You chose to debug the issue and help. No, people don't do that in Windows because Microsoft has much better QA/QC. Not a single Windows update since 1998 has rendered my system unbootable. Microsoft is certainly not perfect and Windows sometimes has regression but those normally affect very few people. > Is it tens of thousands, or hundreds? Windows installation user base: 2 billion. Linux: 40 million. Have fun with mental gymnastics. > You choose to live on the bleeding edge, and so you bleed. There's a huge number of bugs affecting "stable" Linux distros that use "stable" software including the kernel. Linux bugs are not specific to the bleeding edge but they are more prominent. Here: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219638 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219638 > Well, your entire comment is a rant: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rant This is not a counter argument and I will not waste any more of my time with you. Try using the dictionary argument with your children, "You are a retard, my boy! Why? Look it up in the Merriam Webster dictionary, that's why".

Draiken 2y ago

You literally have to reinstall windows because of how broken it got, and that's somehow okay? The amount of BSOD I've seen and unfixable issues after spending hours googling and browsing windows shitty support sites are just the tip of the iceberg. Windows is utter trash and the only reason it won is because of the monopoly it established, forcing everyone to use it, hardware manufacturers to support it and once the dominance was established, you can't escape it. MacOS is literally only used with hardware lock-in. People don't choose it. It's forced onto whoever chooses to overpay for an Apple computer. The only reason Linux won't win the desktop is because it doesn't have a monopoly to support it. These discussions that pretend any of this is due to merits of one OS over the other are moot. It doesn't matter at all when it comes to who or how many people use it. These are all determined by external factors.

itvision 2y ago
> You literally have to reinstall windows because of how broken it got, and that's somehow okay? Last time I did it was in the Windows XP SP0 days. > The amount of BSOD I've seen and unfixable issues after spending hours googling and browsing windows shitty support sites are just the tip of the iceberg. When was the last time you got BSOD? I've not seen them after Vista. > The only reason Linux won't win the desktop is because it doesn't have a monopoly to support it. "Win"? Start with software compatibility. There's no one Linux, there's a billion of incompatible distros that make it impossible to run old software. > These discussions that pretend any of this is due to merits of one OS over the other are moot. API and ABI compatibility are swear words to you, I get it. I'm sorry if you don't care about those, the world will shrug you off. No other OS has this madness. > by external factors. Yeah, for Linux fans it's always someone or something else. The fact that Linux is a bug-ridden mess of software with no compatibility and no stability isn't an issue of course. It's because Microsoft/Oracle/NVIDIA actively interfere with Linux. Or aliens? Must be aliens.
- Draiken 2y ago
  Wow, I guess some people are such die hard fans that they try to mention "aliens" instead of giving a semblance of an argument. Keep your ad ridden Windows mate, you clearly deserve it. Not worth my time to answer this low level of a reply.