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It seems to me that we forgot about the “stealing” of the “shit” from Europe and other places in the early days …

djaouen 2y ago
Protip: Some of us were not involved in the desecration caused by the East India Tea Company. Just because we look British means we should suffer like them, too?
- carom 2y ago
  They are referring to the fact that the US ignored European IP in its early days and relating that to what China is doing to the US now.
  - djaouen 2y ago
    I am just saying, this AI controversy has roots from before the creation of OpenAI. If OpenAI used European IP, I would think that would be a good thing for Europe, assuming AI is the future? Sorry for talking Ancient History lol
    - skywhopper 2y ago
      What we call AI is not “the future”. But I’m not sure how OpenAI stealing European IP would help Europe, even if it is.
  - cced 2y ago
    What’s also funny is that the promoters of the “China is stealing all of our IP in exchange for their labor” folks never mention why corporations don’t just pull out? Are these IP thefts or technology transfers? If corporations are having their IP stolen, why don’t they just leave? These narratives never explain or mention this. Idk why people still latch onto them, they are completely uninteresting “China is stealing all our IP and there’s nothing we can do about it except for continuing to allow our IP to be stolen” is an IQ test and trope. Does “theft of IP” outweigh, or not, “access to very cheap labor (read: jobs)” ? We need to stop simping for corporations and start thinking critically about these things.
- cma 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Samaritans_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Samaritans_(book)
- tchalla 2y ago
  What does your looks and involvement have to do with the parent comment’s core point?
  - djaouen 2y ago
    Nothing. I’m crazy, remember???

Protip: Some of us were not involved in the desecration caused by the East India Tea Company. Just because we look British means we should suffer like them, too?

carom 2y ago
They are referring to the fact that the US ignored European IP in its early days and relating that to what China is doing to the US now.
- djaouen 2y ago
  I am just saying, this AI controversy has roots from before the creation of OpenAI. If OpenAI used European IP, I would think that would be a good thing for Europe, assuming AI is the future? Sorry for talking Ancient History lol
  - skywhopper 2y ago
    What we call AI is not “the future”. But I’m not sure how OpenAI stealing European IP would help Europe, even if it is.
- cced 2y ago
  What’s also funny is that the promoters of the “China is stealing all of our IP in exchange for their labor” folks never mention why corporations don’t just pull out? Are these IP thefts or technology transfers? If corporations are having their IP stolen, why don’t they just leave? These narratives never explain or mention this. Idk why people still latch onto them, they are completely uninteresting “China is stealing all our IP and there’s nothing we can do about it except for continuing to allow our IP to be stolen” is an IQ test and trope. Does “theft of IP” outweigh, or not, “access to very cheap labor (read: jobs)” ? We need to stop simping for corporations and start thinking critically about these things.
cma 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Samaritans_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Samaritans_(book)
tchalla 2y ago
What does your looks and involvement have to do with the parent comment’s core point?
- djaouen 2y ago
  Nothing. I’m crazy, remember???