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He was wrong about some things and right about Zionism. This didn't need to be a random dude's walk through Russell's wikipedia page because there's a perfectly

He was wrong about some things and right about Zionism. This didn't need to be a random dude's walk through Russell's wikipedia page because there's a perfectly fine link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell "No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which nobody else would tolerate?" -- Russell

throwaway290 2y ago
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AnimalMuppet 2y ago
Honest question: Were they expelled, or did they flee? Or some of both? I think the difference matters. "I'm not living with those people in charge" and then fighting for the better part of a century to throw them out, gets less sympathy from me than "they threw me out". On the other hand, I have some sympathy for Cuban exiles, so maybe I'm inconsistent...
- jedimind 2y ago
  >Honest question: Were they expelled, or did they flee? Or some of both? Both, the fleeing was a direct result and the very intention of the massacres to achieve the ethnic-cleansing[1] of Palestinians. Those who fled were not only refused back onto their land and homes, but were also shot at and killed when they tried going back into their homes. [1] The Masterplan for the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3cnRcfp_us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3cnRcfp_us
- piva00 2y ago
  There's a Wikipedia page for you to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    Unbiased version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict#War_of_1948 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Arab%E2%80%93Is...
throwaway290 2y ago
I believe people here are capable of finding an article on Wikipedia on their own. I just highlighted that this person had some opinions that are pretty out there and implying "this is true because this guy said so" is not a good logic. It's telling that a bunch of my comments were flagged. (The guy who pointedly suggested that I must be a Jew to have this view however wasn't.)
invalidname 2y ago
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throwaway290 2y ago

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AnimalMuppet 2y ago

Honest question: Were they expelled, or did they flee? Or some of both? I think the difference matters. "I'm not living with those people in charge" and then fighting for the better part of a century to throw them out, gets less sympathy from me than "they threw me out". On the other hand, I have some sympathy for Cuban exiles, so maybe I'm inconsistent...

jedimind 2y ago
>Honest question: Were they expelled, or did they flee? Or some of both? Both, the fleeing was a direct result and the very intention of the massacres to achieve the ethnic-cleansing[1] of Palestinians. Those who fled were not only refused back onto their land and homes, but were also shot at and killed when they tried going back into their homes. [1] The Masterplan for the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3cnRcfp_us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3cnRcfp_us
piva00 2y ago
There's a Wikipedia page for you to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
- throwaway290 2y ago
  Unbiased version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict#War_of_1948 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Arab%E2%80%93Is...

throwaway290 2y ago

I believe people here are capable of finding an article on Wikipedia on their own. I just highlighted that this person had some opinions that are pretty out there and implying "this is true because this guy said so" is not a good logic. It's telling that a bunch of my comments were flagged. (The guy who pointedly suggested that I must be a Jew to have this view however wasn't.)

invalidname 2y ago

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