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You're fine with Google seeing complete information about your income and spending? I'm not one of those truly paranoid, but this seems like a bit too much.

diggan 2y ago
That seems like the least "compromising" data, compared to other things we let them get. Imagine there are whole countries out there where income is public and accessible to anyone ;)
pxeger1 2y ago
What’s your risk model here? Google are not manually or automatically inspecting the contents of your spreadsheets in order to profile you and show you better-personalised ads. Not enough people have such a spreadsheet for it to be worth it for them, I’m sure - and they also probably already know approximately how wealthy you are. Unless you’re under investigation for fraud or something, I doubt the government could get much use out of being able to access your financial spreadsheets via Google compared to the information they already get directly from banks etc. So that only really leaves criminals (for whom I still can’t see a great incentive to read your spreadsheets), and I also don’t really think your Google account is much less secure than your computer’s local storage (if that’s the other place you would keep it)
- mixmastamyk 2y ago
  We’ve learned over and over that tech companies do things which seemingly make no sense to us, but do to them. Not being able to imagine it is not sufficient. Nothing is deleted anymore as well, in hopes it will be useful later. That said I don’t see a huge risk here, unless combined with lots of other data. Would probably avoid though.
- II2II 2y ago
  I simply want minimal exposure of my personal data since I don't want to go through life thinking about risk models. Not only is it time consuming, but my creative juices simply don't flow when it comes down to exploiting people (nor do I want them to flow in that direction).
cootsnuck 2y ago
I hope you don't use Gmail if that's your attitude lol.
londons_explore 2y ago
I only care about humans seeing my data. Most big tech companies very rarely/never let a human review private customer data. Therefore I'm fine handing all the data over to big tech companies. I don't really understand any other point of view - if you're worried about a machine seeing your private stuff, why did you type it into a keyboard in the first place?
- remus 2y ago
  > if you're worried about a machine seeing your private stuff, why did you type it into a keyboard in the first place? Who owns that machine is important though. I don't mind putting my card details in via my phone to buy something because there's a level of trust in the whole system (it's my phone, I have a level of trust that google is not going to steal my card details via android, and a level of trust that the shop is legit and will process my order.) If some random person off the street asked me to type my card details into their phone that's a very different ball game as I don't inherently trust them.
  - briandear 2y ago
    I don’t care that much about card details. If I see a fraudulent transaction, I dispute it and it’s done. But my personal financial details/etc — that’s much different than a payment mechanism.
- sneak 2y ago
  > Most big tech companies very rarely/never let a human review private customer data. Therefore I'm fine handing all the data over to big tech companies. This isn't true. Google and Apple and others turn over user data to human analysts at NSA and FBI and others without search warrants all of the time, on hundreds of thousands of user accounts per year. To be fine handing all the data over to big tech companies, you have to be fine handing all of the data over to US federal cops and intelligence services, too, because that's what giving the data (in non-e2ee form) to big tech means.
  - martyvis 2y ago
asveikau 2y ago
I put recipes in google sheets. I hope that Google gets the ratios right on some killer ragù.

diggan 2y ago

That seems like the least "compromising" data, compared to other things we let them get. Imagine there are whole countries out there where income is public and accessible to anyone ;)

pxeger1 2y ago

What’s your risk model here? Google are not manually or automatically inspecting the contents of your spreadsheets in order to profile you and show you better-personalised ads. Not enough people have such a spreadsheet for it to be worth it for them, I’m sure - and they also probably already know approximately how wealthy you are. Unless you’re under investigation for fraud or something, I doubt the government could get much use out of being able to access your financial spreadsheets via Google compared to the information they already get directly from banks etc. So that only really leaves criminals (for whom I still can’t see a great incentive to read your spreadsheets), and I also don’t really think your Google account is much less secure than your computer’s local storage (if that’s the other place you would keep it)

mixmastamyk 2y ago
We’ve learned over and over that tech companies do things which seemingly make no sense to us, but do to them. Not being able to imagine it is not sufficient. Nothing is deleted anymore as well, in hopes it will be useful later. That said I don’t see a huge risk here, unless combined with lots of other data. Would probably avoid though.
II2II 2y ago
I simply want minimal exposure of my personal data since I don't want to go through life thinking about risk models. Not only is it time consuming, but my creative juices simply don't flow when it comes down to exploiting people (nor do I want them to flow in that direction).

cootsnuck 2y ago

I hope you don't use Gmail if that's your attitude lol.

londons_explore 2y ago

I only care about humans seeing my data. Most big tech companies very rarely/never let a human review private customer data. Therefore I'm fine handing all the data over to big tech companies. I don't really understand any other point of view - if you're worried about a machine seeing your private stuff, why did you type it into a keyboard in the first place?

remus 2y ago
> if you're worried about a machine seeing your private stuff, why did you type it into a keyboard in the first place? Who owns that machine is important though. I don't mind putting my card details in via my phone to buy something because there's a level of trust in the whole system (it's my phone, I have a level of trust that google is not going to steal my card details via android, and a level of trust that the shop is legit and will process my order.) If some random person off the street asked me to type my card details into their phone that's a very different ball game as I don't inherently trust them.
- briandear 2y ago
  I don’t care that much about card details. If I see a fraudulent transaction, I dispute it and it’s done. But my personal financial details/etc — that’s much different than a payment mechanism.
sneak 2y ago
> Most big tech companies very rarely/never let a human review private customer data. Therefore I'm fine handing all the data over to big tech companies. This isn't true. Google and Apple and others turn over user data to human analysts at NSA and FBI and others without search warrants all of the time, on hundreds of thousands of user accounts per year. To be fine handing all the data over to big tech companies, you have to be fine handing all of the data over to US federal cops and intelligence services, too, because that's what giving the data (in non-e2ee form) to big tech means.
- martyvis 2y ago

asveikau 2y ago

I put recipes in google sheets. I hope that Google gets the ratios right on some killer ragù.