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I was trying to convey a subjective and emotional experience. Obviously I failed. I hope that when you try to express awe it isn't dismissed as weasel words.

by retrac 2y ago

I was trying to convey a subjective and emotional experience. Obviously I failed. I hope that when you try to express awe it isn't dismissed as weasel words. I give up. Delete my account please dang. This site isn't good for my mental health.

Y_Y 2y ago
I didn't like your comment, that's all. I'm just one anonymous asshole, I can't invalidate your sense of awe. FWIW, I didn't want or expect to harm your mental health.
- AdieuToLogic 2y ago
  >> This is all weasel words, and you've misspelled "Schroedinger"/"Schrödinger". That sort of comment might be fine for the pub, but on the internet you don't have to say anything and if you do it may as well have some substance. > ... I can't invalidate your sense of awe. Actually, yes. Yes, you can. And so could I, or anyone really, given sufficiently focused vitriol. For example, your sentence fragment "This is all weasel words" is incorrect English. "This is" should use the plural form "These are" as the subject is "words" and not "weasel", as well as the modifier "all" emphasizing plurality. The irony of your subsequently pointing out a spelling error and then chastising the OP for same has not been lost.
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    At least 50% of posts that point out a spelling or grammatical error contain one as well.
    - AdieuToLogic 2y ago
      > At least 50% of posts that point out a spelling or grammatical error contain one as well. Quite true. While I do not generally claim to be a grammatical wizard, I do know when I hear from one (hello Zortech-C++, it's been too long!). If you don't mind pointing out my mistake(s) above, I would appreciate it as my goal was to exemplify the social effect of pedantic critique. Being corrected when doing same could serve as an additional benefit.
      - WalterBright 2y ago
        It's nice to hear from a ZTC++ user!
    - Y_Y 2y ago
      What's the unconditional rate of errors in posts generally? Without the prior I don't know if whinginging about spelling or grammar makes my posts correcter or incorrecter.
  - Y_Y 2y ago
    > "This [comment] is all weasel words." The subject was "this", referring to the comment. By what standard of English did you reckon my post incorrect? I appreciate your effort to cheer up your parent post, and to improve my language skills, of course. (I'm not the language usage police, though I am fussy about correctly rendering people's names.) I didn't understand your gainsaying about invalidating awe. Whether or not the poster's awe was a real and worthwhile feeling seems to me entirely independent of my opinions. I find your aims admirable. However, I regret to say that for me the irony, and purpose of this comment thread, have indeed been lost.
    - AdieuToLogic 2y ago
      >> "This [comment] is all weasel words." > The subject was "this", referring to the comment. While I understand your clarification being the intent, in the original context "this" is in its determiner form and not pronoun form. Would the addition of "comment" have been included, then I believe most (if not all) readers would understand its use as the pronoun form it is often used as well as being associated with the noun form of "comment." More important than my pedantry was an attempt to illustrate how corrections in this medium can be interpreted quite differently based on the person. As you intimate, my example did not affect you adversely (which is great BTW). How the OP responded to your original reply indicated a different effect unfortunately. I am not judging, only providing my observation. A quote I wish I knew much earlier in my life is: A sharp tongue is the only edge tool that grows keener with constant use.[0] HTH 0 - https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/washington_irving_384249 https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/washington_irving_384249
      - Y_Y 2y ago
        Thank you, especially for deft use of pedantry as a tool for good, and that quote which I'll retain.
AdieuToLogic 2y ago
> I give up. Delete my account please dang. This site isn't good for my mental health. While I cannot speak to your conclusion, I can humbly suggest to not put any credence in what some rando says on the Internet. Including myself. :-) Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.[0] 0 - https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/theodore_roosevelt_103499 https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/theodore_roosevelt_103499
CamperBob2 2y ago
You wouldn't toss out your radio because it picks up a bit of static now and then, would you? That's all that posts like that one amount to... static.
jakeogh 2y ago
Your comment is excellent, inspiring and quite true. Please stay, otherwise the rest of us are stuck with the alternative (which essentially someone saying "read this wikipedia and Schrödinger original talks", with a perplexing pile of unhappyness, pretending to correct things that you didnt get wrong)
- Y_Y 2y ago
  Inspiring and true I could leave if you like

by retrac 2y ago

Y_Y 2y ago

I didn't like your comment, that's all. I'm just one anonymous asshole, I can't invalidate your sense of awe. FWIW, I didn't want or expect to harm your mental health.

AdieuToLogic 2y ago
>> This is all weasel words, and you've misspelled "Schroedinger"/"Schrödinger". That sort of comment might be fine for the pub, but on the internet you don't have to say anything and if you do it may as well have some substance. > ... I can't invalidate your sense of awe. Actually, yes. Yes, you can. And so could I, or anyone really, given sufficiently focused vitriol. For example, your sentence fragment "This is all weasel words" is incorrect English. "This is" should use the plural form "These are" as the subject is "words" and not "weasel", as well as the modifier "all" emphasizing plurality. The irony of your subsequently pointing out a spelling error and then chastising the OP for same has not been lost.
- WalterBright 2y ago
  At least 50% of posts that point out a spelling or grammatical error contain one as well.
  - AdieuToLogic 2y ago
    > At least 50% of posts that point out a spelling or grammatical error contain one as well. Quite true. While I do not generally claim to be a grammatical wizard, I do know when I hear from one (hello Zortech-C++, it's been too long!). If you don't mind pointing out my mistake(s) above, I would appreciate it as my goal was to exemplify the social effect of pedantic critique. Being corrected when doing same could serve as an additional benefit.
    - WalterBright 2y ago
      It's nice to hear from a ZTC++ user!
  - Y_Y 2y ago
    What's the unconditional rate of errors in posts generally? Without the prior I don't know if whinginging about spelling or grammar makes my posts correcter or incorrecter.
- Y_Y 2y ago
  > "This [comment] is all weasel words." The subject was "this", referring to the comment. By what standard of English did you reckon my post incorrect? I appreciate your effort to cheer up your parent post, and to improve my language skills, of course. (I'm not the language usage police, though I am fussy about correctly rendering people's names.) I didn't understand your gainsaying about invalidating awe. Whether or not the poster's awe was a real and worthwhile feeling seems to me entirely independent of my opinions. I find your aims admirable. However, I regret to say that for me the irony, and purpose of this comment thread, have indeed been lost.
  - AdieuToLogic 2y ago
    >> "This [comment] is all weasel words." > The subject was "this", referring to the comment. While I understand your clarification being the intent, in the original context "this" is in its determiner form and not pronoun form. Would the addition of "comment" have been included, then I believe most (if not all) readers would understand its use as the pronoun form it is often used as well as being associated with the noun form of "comment." More important than my pedantry was an attempt to illustrate how corrections in this medium can be interpreted quite differently based on the person. As you intimate, my example did not affect you adversely (which is great BTW). How the OP responded to your original reply indicated a different effect unfortunately. I am not judging, only providing my observation. A quote I wish I knew much earlier in my life is: A sharp tongue is the only edge tool that grows keener with constant use.[0] HTH 0 - https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/washington_irving_384249 https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/washington_irving_384249
    - Y_Y 2y ago
      Thank you, especially for deft use of pedantry as a tool for good, and that quote which I'll retain.

AdieuToLogic 2y ago

> I give up. Delete my account please dang. This site isn't good for my mental health. While I cannot speak to your conclusion, I can humbly suggest to not put any credence in what some rando says on the Internet. Including myself. :-) Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.[0] 0 - https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/theodore_roosevelt_103499 https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/theodore_roosevelt_103499

CamperBob2 2y ago

You wouldn't toss out your radio because it picks up a bit of static now and then, would you? That's all that posts like that one amount to... static.

jakeogh 2y ago

Your comment is excellent, inspiring and quite true. Please stay, otherwise the rest of us are stuck with the alternative (which essentially someone saying "read this wikipedia and Schrödinger original talks", with a perplexing pile of unhappyness, pretending to correct things that you didnt get wrong)

Y_Y 2y ago
Inspiring and true I could leave if you like