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Lightstorm: Minimalistic Ruby Compiler

146 points by eutropia 2y ago

trevorhinesley 2y ago
DragonRuby is incredible and the community is wildly supportive. Love that this is getting traction on HN. Ruby is really having a renaissance.
- mysterydip 2y ago
  I just switched a month ago to doing gamedev in dragonruby and it's been a real positive move. Hot reloading of the script while the game is running at its current state has allowed me to debug faster and try new features or ideas (should jump be 7.5? try 7.8. maybe 7.75)
  - trevorhinesley 2y ago
    Love that! Amir and crew are very responsive on Discord as well, which makes a DX difference.
- torben-friis 2y ago
  >Ruby is really having a renaissance. Any projects/resources to check? I'll start using ruby at work and I could use some recommendations to properly get into the language.
  - trevorhinesley 2y ago
    That’s one of the beautiful things about the massive Ruby ecosystem: the answer to that question is almost always yes, regardless of your need. I’m not sure what your line of work is, but if you’re doing web dev, check this out for a great primer on the current state of things (Rails 8 + Hotwire): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cEn_83zRFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cEn_83zRFw If you’d prefer just some straight Ruby resources, Ruby Warrior is (or was, been a while since I’ve used it but it appears actively maintained still) a fun intro: https://github.com/ryanb/ruby-warrior https://github.com/ryanb/ruby-warrior
mapcars 2y ago
I'm curious if Crystal lang is not fit enough for the main task?
- trevorhinesley 2y ago
  Which task? DragonRuby uses a custom mruby build to target cross platform game releases so their goal is to fit the Ruby lang spec, which Crystal does not adhere to.
  - mdaniel 2y ago
    > their goal is to fit the Ruby lang spec I honestly thought that "ruby lang spec" was "whatever Matz ruby does." The ISO-IEC-30170 standard cited by mruby's readme seems to be laughably old but I can't obviously tell if mruby is a superset of the ISO or a subset. Their use of the phrase "part of the ISO standard" doesn't help
    - loktarogar 2y ago
      There's a full blown test suite for Ruby which the various implementations use: https://github.com/ruby/spec https://github.com/ruby/spec
    - trevorhinesley 2y ago
      Matz is the creator and maintainer of Ruby, yes. mruby is a subset to my knowledge, and I don't think it's 100% parity with Ruby MRI (CRuby), which is basically what the lang spec is built around to my knowledge.
- Bolwin 2y ago
  Amir on why they didn't go with crystal https://ruby.social/@amirrajan/113655343888344967 https://ruby.social/@amirrajan/113655343888344967
  - brigandish 2y ago
    That's a bit light on the details, and I can't make any sense of "To use stdio even you literally need kernel-level privileges on Console.", C's stdio doesn't require special privileges to use, nor does Crystal's, afaik. Maybe someone else will know that means.
revskill 2y ago
Ruby is great as the first language. Productive as an engineer. Expressive as a linguist. Elegant as an artist. Magic as a blackbox. Succinct as math.
- ramon156 2y ago
  Peems.
- deleted 2y ago
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Alifatisk 2y ago
Fascinating, does the project aspire to become compatible with MRI Ruby? Also how many active Ruby implementations do we have so far? Edit: Found this, https://github.com/codicoscepticos/ruby-implementations?tab=readme-ov-file#active https://github.com/codicoscepticos/ruby-implementations?tab=...
Malp 2y ago
Awesome to see the progress made by Alex, highly recommend watching the linked talk for people interested in any of Ruby, (AoT) compilers, and MLIR (which I haven't seen used too much outside of the ML space, personally)

146 points by eutropia 2y ago

DragonRuby is incredible and the community is wildly supportive. Love that this is getting traction on HN. Ruby is really having a renaissance.

mysterydip 2y ago
I just switched a month ago to doing gamedev in dragonruby and it's been a real positive move. Hot reloading of the script while the game is running at its current state has allowed me to debug faster and try new features or ideas (should jump be 7.5? try 7.8. maybe 7.75)
- trevorhinesley 2y ago
  Love that! Amir and crew are very responsive on Discord as well, which makes a DX difference.
torben-friis 2y ago
>Ruby is really having a renaissance. Any projects/resources to check? I'll start using ruby at work and I could use some recommendations to properly get into the language.
- trevorhinesley 2y ago
  That’s one of the beautiful things about the massive Ruby ecosystem: the answer to that question is almost always yes, regardless of your need. I’m not sure what your line of work is, but if you’re doing web dev, check this out for a great primer on the current state of things (Rails 8 + Hotwire): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cEn_83zRFw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cEn_83zRFw If you’d prefer just some straight Ruby resources, Ruby Warrior is (or was, been a while since I’ve used it but it appears actively maintained still) a fun intro: https://github.com/ryanb/ruby-warrior https://github.com/ryanb/ruby-warrior

mapcars 2y ago

I'm curious if Crystal lang is not fit enough for the main task?

trevorhinesley 2y ago
Which task? DragonRuby uses a custom mruby build to target cross platform game releases so their goal is to fit the Ruby lang spec, which Crystal does not adhere to.
- mdaniel 2y ago
  > their goal is to fit the Ruby lang spec I honestly thought that "ruby lang spec" was "whatever Matz ruby does." The ISO-IEC-30170 standard cited by mruby's readme seems to be laughably old but I can't obviously tell if mruby is a superset of the ISO or a subset. Their use of the phrase "part of the ISO standard" doesn't help
  - loktarogar 2y ago
    There's a full blown test suite for Ruby which the various implementations use: https://github.com/ruby/spec https://github.com/ruby/spec
  - trevorhinesley 2y ago
    Matz is the creator and maintainer of Ruby, yes. mruby is a subset to my knowledge, and I don't think it's 100% parity with Ruby MRI (CRuby), which is basically what the lang spec is built around to my knowledge.
Bolwin 2y ago
Amir on why they didn't go with crystal https://ruby.social/@amirrajan/113655343888344967 https://ruby.social/@amirrajan/113655343888344967
- brigandish 2y ago
  That's a bit light on the details, and I can't make any sense of "To use stdio even you literally need kernel-level privileges on Console.", C's stdio doesn't require special privileges to use, nor does Crystal's, afaik. Maybe someone else will know that means.

revskill 2y ago

Ruby is great as the first language. Productive as an engineer. Expressive as a linguist. Elegant as an artist. Magic as a blackbox. Succinct as math.

ramon156 2y ago
Peems.
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Alifatisk 2y ago

Fascinating, does the project aspire to become compatible with MRI Ruby? Also how many active Ruby implementations do we have so far? Edit: Found this, https://github.com/codicoscepticos/ruby-implementations?tab=readme-ov-file#active https://github.com/codicoscepticos/ruby-implementations?tab=...

Malp 2y ago

Awesome to see the progress made by Alex, highly recommend watching the linked talk for people interested in any of Ruby, (AoT) compilers, and MLIR (which I haven't seen used too much outside of the ML space, personally)