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We should have compassion for everyone, albeit it's pretty difficult for genuinely horrible people. However, compassion doesn't mean giving them everything they

We should have compassion for everyone, albeit it's pretty difficult for genuinely horrible people. However, compassion doesn't mean giving them everything they want without conditions. That's enablement, and isn't compassionate at all.

plagiarist 2y ago
I agree. Maybe it would be neat if we could criminalize the theft part instead of the homelessness and drug addiction?
- kstrauser 2y ago
  I am completely on board with that idea. It shouldn't be a crime to be homeless. It should be a crime to do criminal things.
- piva00 2y ago
  > The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.
  - plagiarist 2y ago
    Homelessness is illegal for everyone and wage theft is a civil court case for everyone. A truly just and equitable system with prosperity for all.
    - piva00 2y ago
      I invite you to read the quote again juxtaposed with your reply. I don't think you got it.
      - kstrauser 2y ago
        I read their words as sarcastic, and agreeing with you.
mmooss 2y ago
I think some things said in this discussion are genuinely horrible - should I hate those people? Should they be locked up?
- kstrauser 2y ago
  > I think some things said in this discussion are genuinely horrible - should I hate those people? You do you. I try not to hate anyone, although I grant myself some leniency when considering child molesters, serial killers, and other people I find despicable. > Should they be locked up? 100% of the people I strongly dislike have done things that should earn them jail time. I don't know what your thresholds are.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    > 100% of the people I strongly dislike have done things that should earn them jail time. I don't know what your thresholds are. That seems a bit too convenient and perfect. But people were talking about using police on homeless people, who aren't child molesters and serial killers. > other people I find despicable That's the problem - your personal feelings aren't relevant.
    - kstrauser 2y ago
      I have no idea what you're trying to say, and I suspect you might've completely misunderstood what I wrote.
jyounker 2y ago
The most effective policy for fixing homeless is, surprise, giving people places to live. It's hard for people to address any other problems in their life unless they have a roof over their head, if for no other reason that the homeless are chronically severely under-slept.

plagiarist 2y ago

I agree. Maybe it would be neat if we could criminalize the theft part instead of the homelessness and drug addiction?

kstrauser 2y ago
I am completely on board with that idea. It shouldn't be a crime to be homeless. It should be a crime to do criminal things.
piva00 2y ago
> The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.
- plagiarist 2y ago
  Homelessness is illegal for everyone and wage theft is a civil court case for everyone. A truly just and equitable system with prosperity for all.
  - piva00 2y ago
    I invite you to read the quote again juxtaposed with your reply. I don't think you got it.
    - kstrauser 2y ago
      I read their words as sarcastic, and agreeing with you.

mmooss 2y ago

I think some things said in this discussion are genuinely horrible - should I hate those people? Should they be locked up?

kstrauser 2y ago
> I think some things said in this discussion are genuinely horrible - should I hate those people? You do you. I try not to hate anyone, although I grant myself some leniency when considering child molesters, serial killers, and other people I find despicable. > Should they be locked up? 100% of the people I strongly dislike have done things that should earn them jail time. I don't know what your thresholds are.
- mmooss 2y ago
  > 100% of the people I strongly dislike have done things that should earn them jail time. I don't know what your thresholds are. That seems a bit too convenient and perfect. But people were talking about using police on homeless people, who aren't child molesters and serial killers. > other people I find despicable That's the problem - your personal feelings aren't relevant.
  - kstrauser 2y ago
    I have no idea what you're trying to say, and I suspect you might've completely misunderstood what I wrote.

jyounker 2y ago

The most effective policy for fixing homeless is, surprise, giving people places to live. It's hard for people to address any other problems in their life unless they have a roof over their head, if for no other reason that the homeless are chronically severely under-slept.