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I wonder if it would work to send Meta's legal department a notice that they are not permitted to access your website. Would that make subsequent accesses be v
by CoastalCoder 2y ago
I wonder if it would work to send Meta's legal department a notice that they are not permitted to access your website.
Would that make subsequent accesses be violations of the U.S.'s Computer Fraud and Abuse Act?
- jahewson 2y agoNo, fortunately random hosts on the internet don’t get to write a letter and make something a crime.
- throwaway_fai 2y agoUnless they're a big company in which case they can DMCA anything they want, and they get the benefit of the doubt.
- BehindBlueEyes 2y agoCan you even DMCS takedown crawlers?
- throwaway_fai 2y agoDoubt it, a vanilla cease-and-desist letter would probably be the approach there. I doubt any large AI company would pay attention though, since, even if they're in the wrong, they can outspend almost anyone in court.
- Nevermark 2y agoSmall claims court?
- betaby 2y agoCrashing wasn't the intent. And scraping is legal, as I remember per Linkedin case.
- azemetre 2y agoThere’s a fine line between scrapping and DDOS’ing I’m sure. Just because you manufacture chemicals doesn’t mean you can legally dump your toxic waste anywhere you want (well shouldn’t be allowed to at least). You also shouldn’t be able to set your crawlers causing sites to fail.
- acedTrex 2y agointent is likely very important to something like a ddos charge
- iinnPP 2y agoWilful ignorance is generally enough.
- gameman144 2y agoMaybe, but impact can also make a pretty viable case. For instance, if you own a home you may have an easement on part of your property that grants other cars from your neighborhood access to pass through it rather than going the long way around. If Amazon were to build a warehouse on one side of the neighborhood, however, it's not obvious that they would be equally legally justified to send their whole fleet back and forth across it every day, even though their intent is certainly not to cause you any discomfort at all.
- RF_Savage 2y agoSo have the stressor and stress testing DDoS for hire sites changed to scraping yet?
- acedTrex 2y agoThe courts will likely be able to discern between "good faith" scraping and a DDoS for hire masquerading as scraping.
- layer8 2y agoSo is negligence. Or at least I would hope so.
- optimiz3 2y ago> I wonder if it would work to send Meta's legal department a notice that they are not permitted to access your website. Depends how much money you are prepared to spend.