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Just to clarify on what actually happened the first time: He wasn't trying to protest the dress code or make a scene, it wasn't on his mind at all. He had been

Just to clarify on what actually happened the first time: He wasn't trying to protest the dress code or make a scene, it wasn't on his mind at all. He had been out for an appearance with a sponsor during a break, then came back to the venue for the next round, and didn't notice that he was wearing jeans and it didn't cross his mind that that would be a violation. The controversy was about exactly how the penalty is imposed. The rule is a fine for the first violation and disqualification for multiple. It wasn't clear if his appearance for the day would count as one violation (so he could just incur the fine and wear correct clothing tomorrow), or if each round would be a separate violation. It also wasn't clear if he could play while in violation or would be excluded from each round until he changed. Precedent from other events wasn't clear for either of these. He thought he was told he could continue, but then FIDE said he would be excluded from each round until he changed, and then he said f--- it and withdrew entirely. Also, what he withdrew from was the Rapid tournament. He is now joining the Blitz event - a separate tournament at the same venue following the rapid.

techwizrd 2y ago
This is very good context. I've seen this poorly reported across news outlets and social media, and everyone seems to be spinning this as a discussion about whether jeans should be permitted and whether Magnus is acting like a diva.
munch117 2y ago
I'm actually a little disappointed that he returned after a dress code change, because the way I see it, the problem was never the dress code itself, but how it was enforced. The rules say that you can be removed from the tournament in cases of gross misconduct. But there was nothing even close to gross misconduct here. Banning him from playing was just the arbiter power tripping. People keep saying that the arbiter was just enforcing the rules. Yes, he was enforcing the rules, but he wasn't "just" enforcing the rules. He was using one of the heaviest sanctions for the most minor infraction.
- halJordan 2y ago
  The rules do say that a player will be removed for multiple infractions and the multiple infractions seem to come from the multiple rounds he would've played with his pants on. So the arbiter was "just" enforcing the rules.
  - munch117 2y ago
    Where does it say that? I can't find language to that effect in https://handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/wrbc_regulations_2024_open.pdf https://handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/wrbc_regulations_20....

techwizrd 2y ago

This is very good context. I've seen this poorly reported across news outlets and social media, and everyone seems to be spinning this as a discussion about whether jeans should be permitted and whether Magnus is acting like a diva.

munch117 2y ago

I'm actually a little disappointed that he returned after a dress code change, because the way I see it, the problem was never the dress code itself, but how it was enforced. The rules say that you can be removed from the tournament in cases of gross misconduct. But there was nothing even close to gross misconduct here. Banning him from playing was just the arbiter power tripping. People keep saying that the arbiter was just enforcing the rules. Yes, he was enforcing the rules, but he wasn't "just" enforcing the rules. He was using one of the heaviest sanctions for the most minor infraction.

halJordan 2y ago
The rules do say that a player will be removed for multiple infractions and the multiple infractions seem to come from the multiple rounds he would've played with his pants on. So the arbiter was "just" enforcing the rules.
- munch117 2y ago
  Where does it say that? I can't find language to that effect in https://handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/wrbc_regulations_2024_open.pdf https://handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/wrbc_regulations_20....