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My impression is that a lot of people are just hoping for everything to go to hell to the point where fundamental changes become inevitable, and they're assumin

My impression is that a lot of people are just hoping for everything to go to hell to the point where fundamental changes become inevitable, and they're assuming that these fundamental changes will likely be beneficial to them. I'm not sure if this is evidence of how bad people think the status quo is, or if it is evidence of how naive most people are.

UncleOxidant 2y ago
> they're assuming that these fundamental changes will likely be beneficial to them. That rarely works out. When a country collapses the ensuing is chaos going to be a very rough time. Recent examples include the collapse of the Soviet Union. The 90s were really bad for people there. A lot of them moved here to the US to escape that and try to find a better life. I worked with some of them. And now what do they have in Russia? A dictatorship that's not any better than what they had in Soviet times - certainly worse than what they had under Gorbachev. People who assume that something better will rise out of the ashes of collapse, but that rarely happens. Better to try to work to make the system you have better even if in small ways.
mulmen 2y ago
> they're assuming that these fundamental changes will likely be beneficial to them. This is the part that confuses me. I have met a few “burn it down” types but never heard one articulate why that would work out well in the long run. I’m only assuming they even thought that far ahead. The only people who can tell me why they voted for Trump are people who want his specific brand of incremental change.