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I have stayed away from it for a while, but after my partner switched over to it I decided to delve deeper into it. The openess of Bluesky to developers is a br

by dom96 2y ago

I have stayed away from it for a while, but after my partner switched over to it I decided to delve deeper into it. The openess of Bluesky to developers is a breath of fresh air and the platform itself has some really great features. So I guess you can say I'm a fan now too. I was also able to create an app on Bluesky that grew to 15k users in less than a month[1]. The Bluesky team was really open to helping me with some rate limits to make sure it could continue running well too. Reddit and Twitter probably had similar vibes when they were starting out, perhaps Bluesky will face the same fate, but there are no guarantees with any platform out there. 1 - https://listifications.app https://listifications.app

baggachipz 2y ago
I don't know how long you've been in the space, so forgive me if I seem condescending. Twitter and Facebook used to be extremely open and encouraging to developers. That's how they gained prominence, by allowing... nay, incentivizing developers to use their platform. Once they hit critical mass, that was all unceremoniously ripped away. Assuming a for-profit venture like Bluesky gains critical mass, it will absolutely happen again.
- seanw444 2y ago
  An inevitability, unfortunately.
- dom96 2y ago
  Yes, it probably will. If it does then I will move to a new platform.
- edavis 2y ago
  I'm sorry, but there's just a qualitative difference between a company setting up some API endpoints and what Bluesky PBC is doing with building atproto, releasing PDS software, encouraging self-hosters and treating them as first class, etc. You may be interested in this thread from a core dev which examines this exact play by Reddit (and how nobody could do anything about it), how it would have been different on atproto, and how a robust ecosystem keeps incumbent players honest: https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3la636r666c2p https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3la636r666c2p
  - baggachipz 2y ago
    I'll refer to Cory Doctorow's excellently-written takedown[1] of this idea. Bluesky has plans to make it technically shit-proof, but haven't executed those plans "yet". Until that's the case, they're just as susceptible as any other content platform. After all, they haven't even revealed how they will make a profit yet. And they will have to do that. Profit motive always wins, exponentially so when something is venture-backed. To quote Public Enemy: "can't truss it" [1]https://pluralistic.net/2024/12/14/fire-exits/#graceful-failure-modes https://pluralistic.net/2024/12/14/fire-exits/#graceful-fail...

by dom96 2y ago

baggachipz 2y ago

I don't know how long you've been in the space, so forgive me if I seem condescending. Twitter and Facebook used to be extremely open and encouraging to developers. That's how they gained prominence, by allowing... nay, incentivizing developers to use their platform. Once they hit critical mass, that was all unceremoniously ripped away. Assuming a for-profit venture like Bluesky gains critical mass, it will absolutely happen again.

seanw444 2y ago
An inevitability, unfortunately.
dom96 2y ago
Yes, it probably will. If it does then I will move to a new platform.
edavis 2y ago
I'm sorry, but there's just a qualitative difference between a company setting up some API endpoints and what Bluesky PBC is doing with building atproto, releasing PDS software, encouraging self-hosters and treating them as first class, etc. You may be interested in this thread from a core dev which examines this exact play by Reddit (and how nobody could do anything about it), how it would have been different on atproto, and how a robust ecosystem keeps incumbent players honest: https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3la636r666c2p https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3la636r666c2p
- baggachipz 2y ago
  I'll refer to Cory Doctorow's excellently-written takedown[1] of this idea. Bluesky has plans to make it technically shit-proof, but haven't executed those plans "yet". Until that's the case, they're just as susceptible as any other content platform. After all, they haven't even revealed how they will make a profit yet. And they will have to do that. Profit motive always wins, exponentially so when something is venture-backed. To quote Public Enemy: "can't truss it" [1]https://pluralistic.net/2024/12/14/fire-exits/#graceful-failure-modes https://pluralistic.net/2024/12/14/fire-exits/#graceful-fail...