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While I agree on your point regarding midterm reckoning, I'm afraid people DID vote for Trump, he even won the popular vote - which is mind numbing: Americans a

While I agree on your point regarding midterm reckoning, I'm afraid people DID vote for Trump, he even won the popular vote - which is mind numbing: Americans actually WANTED to install a proven criminal and rapist as president.

mulmen 2y ago
Be careful extrapolating the intent of Americans from the majority of voters.
bdangubic 2y ago
it is extremely short-sited to think in simple terms like this. what you should be asking yourself is WHY this happened - WHY did all these people come out to vote for Trump. We are not talking here about "MAGAs" - there are nearly not enough of them to win the election. every single state in the United States moved to the right in this election... so you should stop and think this through to figure out why would America choose Trump so that it is not all that mind numbing... there is a reason this happened and you should think about that why that is...
- oh_my_goodness 2y ago
  Seems clear that (effectively) nobody is voting for fraud or rape. But I've thought about it a lot, and I'm still clueless. Something to do with lots of people getting screwed, I guess. But why ordinary folks switch their vote from a party that serves the top 20%, to a party that serves the top 0.01%, that is still mysterious to me.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    USA is a two-party system so come Presidential election time one gets to choose between two options. There are effectively two ways you can choose between two options: A. you are voting FOR one of the options. B. you are voting AGAINST the other option - hence by default you must choose the other there is a significant number of people that are in the B. bucket (in my personal circle 9 out of 20 people fall in B. bucket, 8 of which NEVER voted for a Republican in any election prior to this one) and democratic party needs to think looooong and hard about that before midterms and especially next Presidential election

mulmen 2y ago

Be careful extrapolating the intent of Americans from the majority of voters.

bdangubic 2y ago

it is extremely short-sited to think in simple terms like this. what you should be asking yourself is WHY this happened - WHY did all these people come out to vote for Trump. We are not talking here about "MAGAs" - there are nearly not enough of them to win the election. every single state in the United States moved to the right in this election... so you should stop and think this through to figure out why would America choose Trump so that it is not all that mind numbing... there is a reason this happened and you should think about that why that is...

oh_my_goodness 2y ago
Seems clear that (effectively) nobody is voting for fraud or rape. But I've thought about it a lot, and I'm still clueless. Something to do with lots of people getting screwed, I guess. But why ordinary folks switch their vote from a party that serves the top 20%, to a party that serves the top 0.01%, that is still mysterious to me.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  USA is a two-party system so come Presidential election time one gets to choose between two options. There are effectively two ways you can choose between two options: A. you are voting FOR one of the options. B. you are voting AGAINST the other option - hence by default you must choose the other there is a significant number of people that are in the B. bucket (in my personal circle 9 out of 20 people fall in B. bucket, 8 of which NEVER voted for a Republican in any election prior to this one) and democratic party needs to think looooong and hard about that before midterms and especially next Presidential election