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I’m not sure which immediate healthcare you’re talking about. Where I live in the US earliest available specialist I was seeking (nothing too special) was month

I’m not sure which immediate healthcare you’re talking about. Where I live in the US earliest available specialist I was seeking (nothing too special) was months away. We do have highest spending for healthcare among peers, having healthcare universal wouldn’t necessary mean long wait times.

kortilla 2y ago
>Where I live in the US earliest available specialist I was seeking (nothing too special) was months away. How far were you willing to travel? In my local smaller city a skin cancer specialist was also unavailable for several weeks but I was able to take a two hour trip to the Mayo Clinic and got in there 2 days later with a referral. In the UK it’s controlled at a a national level and you can’t travel two hours with an overnight stay to fix it like you can in the US. Separately from specialists, urgent care facilities have a very high density here so immediate things can be addressed quite quickly. >having healthcare universal wouldn’t necessary mean long wait times. I have yet to see a system where that’s true. A friend got pneumonia in Canada and had to wait 14 hours in the ER before being diagnosed and given antibiotics. I don’t think you can get all 3 of cheap, good, and fast. That adage applies to everything else in the world.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  How far were you willing to travel? In my local smaller city a skin cancer specialist was also unavailable for several weeks but I was able to take a two hour trip to the Mayo Clinic and got in there 2 days later with a referral. In the UK it’s controlled at a a national level and you can’t travel two hours with an overnight stay to fix it like you can in the US. if we are talking about traveling 2 hours to get care UK people can hit the airplane and head on over to Serbia/Romania/... and get whatever care they want for 1/20th of the price (plus a little R&R time...) I have yet to see a system where that’s true. A friend got pneumonia in Canada and had to wait 14 hours in the ER before being diagnosed and given antibiotics. you are taking one example of one friend. I have both friends as well as family in Canada who basically say all the time that it is absolute BS what American's get fed via media what it is like to have universal healthcare in Canada. This is similar to how everyone thinks that VA healthcare system is "broken" in the United States - same thing - have both friends and family who served in the Armed Forces that swear by VA and have never had a single issue getting care/medicine/... The lobby for current health care system is stroooooong and is working hard to make you believe that a different system (where they are cut out completely) will just be very very bad for ya...

kortilla 2y ago

>Where I live in the US earliest available specialist I was seeking (nothing too special) was months away. How far were you willing to travel? In my local smaller city a skin cancer specialist was also unavailable for several weeks but I was able to take a two hour trip to the Mayo Clinic and got in there 2 days later with a referral. In the UK it’s controlled at a a national level and you can’t travel two hours with an overnight stay to fix it like you can in the US. Separately from specialists, urgent care facilities have a very high density here so immediate things can be addressed quite quickly. >having healthcare universal wouldn’t necessary mean long wait times. I have yet to see a system where that’s true. A friend got pneumonia in Canada and had to wait 14 hours in the ER before being diagnosed and given antibiotics. I don’t think you can get all 3 of cheap, good, and fast. That adage applies to everything else in the world.

bdangubic 2y ago
How far were you willing to travel? In my local smaller city a skin cancer specialist was also unavailable for several weeks but I was able to take a two hour trip to the Mayo Clinic and got in there 2 days later with a referral. In the UK it’s controlled at a a national level and you can’t travel two hours with an overnight stay to fix it like you can in the US. if we are talking about traveling 2 hours to get care UK people can hit the airplane and head on over to Serbia/Romania/... and get whatever care they want for 1/20th of the price (plus a little R&R time...) I have yet to see a system where that’s true. A friend got pneumonia in Canada and had to wait 14 hours in the ER before being diagnosed and given antibiotics. you are taking one example of one friend. I have both friends as well as family in Canada who basically say all the time that it is absolute BS what American's get fed via media what it is like to have universal healthcare in Canada. This is similar to how everyone thinks that VA healthcare system is "broken" in the United States - same thing - have both friends and family who served in the Armed Forces that swear by VA and have never had a single issue getting care/medicine/... The lobby for current health care system is stroooooong and is working hard to make you believe that a different system (where they are cut out completely) will just be very very bad for ya...