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The previous comment correctly summarized the actual state of things on all counts. Look closer.

ryao 2y ago
That is a popular remark by libre office fans, but it is not true when I look at commit counts. As for security issues, it is interesting how nobody repeating this ever can cite any known security flaws. A quick comparison between the open office security bulletin and recently published CVEs (2023 or more recent) suggests that they are all fixed. https://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html https://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=openoffice https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=openoffice Note that two of the ones in the mitre results are in a PHP project that is not part of the Open Office code base. Unless you can prove otherwise, it looks to me like people saying this are spreading FUD. The GitHub commit analysis shows an active project, although not as active as libre office, so the remarks about Open Office being a dead project are exaggerations at best and outright lies at worst. Finally, I would like to remark that it is ridiculous to complain because I cited an open source project you do not use/like. This is vim vs emacs levels of nonsense.
- Brian_K_White 2y ago
  Your charges of fanboism seem to be rather projection. I personally barely use any office apps for 5 minutes per year. I'm not a fan of any.
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  - ryao 2y ago
    I did not even use the term fanboyism, but as long as we are using psychological terms to describe behavior, may I suggest you had a Freudian slip? I am the one being jumped by you and others for mentioning a competing office suite's word processor in a price comparison. You asked me to look closer, so I did and found that the claims being made against Open Office were baseless. You did not like that, so you made yet another unfounded accusation, this time targeting me. By the way, I use Google Docs, so I have little interest in either project. However, the FUD being spread against Open Office by LibreOffice proponents has damaged LibreOffice in my eyes.
    - Brian_K_White 2y ago
      A concept can be expressed countless ways using countless vocabulary. You don't have to use the word "fanboy" or even the word "fan" to communicate fanboy, and you did literally say "fan" for all that. FUD is not what's being said about Open Office. There is no fear, or uncertainty, or doubt being employed. There is simply a direct claim being asserted that practically all of the developers and maintainers of OO one day created LibreOffice and they are all there now, and OO has had nothing remotely like the development of LO since then. That assertion may or may not be accurate, or the facts may or may not have changed in the last few years, but it's nature is not FUD.

ryao 2y ago

That is a popular remark by libre office fans, but it is not true when I look at commit counts. As for security issues, it is interesting how nobody repeating this ever can cite any known security flaws. A quick comparison between the open office security bulletin and recently published CVEs (2023 or more recent) suggests that they are all fixed. https://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html https://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=openoffice https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=openoffice Note that two of the ones in the mitre results are in a PHP project that is not part of the Open Office code base. Unless you can prove otherwise, it looks to me like people saying this are spreading FUD. The GitHub commit analysis shows an active project, although not as active as libre office, so the remarks about Open Office being a dead project are exaggerations at best and outright lies at worst. Finally, I would like to remark that it is ridiculous to complain because I cited an open source project you do not use/like. This is vim vs emacs levels of nonsense.

Brian_K_White 2y ago
Your charges of fanboism seem to be rather projection. I personally barely use any office apps for 5 minutes per year. I'm not a fan of any.
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- ryao 2y ago
  I did not even use the term fanboyism, but as long as we are using psychological terms to describe behavior, may I suggest you had a Freudian slip? I am the one being jumped by you and others for mentioning a competing office suite's word processor in a price comparison. You asked me to look closer, so I did and found that the claims being made against Open Office were baseless. You did not like that, so you made yet another unfounded accusation, this time targeting me. By the way, I use Google Docs, so I have little interest in either project. However, the FUD being spread against Open Office by LibreOffice proponents has damaged LibreOffice in my eyes.
  - Brian_K_White 2y ago
    A concept can be expressed countless ways using countless vocabulary. You don't have to use the word "fanboy" or even the word "fan" to communicate fanboy, and you did literally say "fan" for all that. FUD is not what's being said about Open Office. There is no fear, or uncertainty, or doubt being employed. There is simply a direct claim being asserted that practically all of the developers and maintainers of OO one day created LibreOffice and they are all there now, and OO has had nothing remotely like the development of LO since then. That assertion may or may not be accurate, or the facts may or may not have changed in the last few years, but it's nature is not FUD.