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> The drawback could be as simple as “higher cost to manufacture” or “higher risk of consumers using incorrect/third party batteries” This wouldn’t be an issue

> The drawback could be as simple as “higher cost to manufacture” or “higher risk of consumers using incorrect/third party batteries” This wouldn’t be an issue if we had some kind of standards around batteries for cellphones rather than making unique batteries for every single model. If you could just buy a “Type B” format phone battery for a phone this would eliminate the issue. It would be similar to the charger market, where different manufacturers could compete. This is _toward_ the market economics that capitalists so love, unless they’re benefiting from market capture of proprietary parts. One-off designs are wasteful and drive up costs and drive down quality.

wqaatwt 2y ago
That battery would inevitably be thicker than necessary and have less capacity. Would also more or less stop any potential innovation. > drive down quality. How so?
alkonaut 2y ago
I’m under the impression (probably created by Apple) that anything not tailor made by them is worse. I can charge my phone with any 5V source and the right connector but it’s always slower than an Apple charger. Why, I don’t know. Could be that the phone just recognizes the Apple charger and refuses to charge full speed otherwise. But is there anything that could be done about that? It’s malicious compliance at worst or just a lowest common denominator standard at best. I use third party batteries and the phone refuses to reliably gauge their health (understandable) which makes them objectively worse. The list goes on. It’s bad for the wallet and the environment but people still want to pay for complete tailor made ecosystems and I’m not optimistic that it can change completely via regulation. USB-C standardization lets me charge with a third party charger in a pinch but it still doesn’t rid me of Apple’s monopoly on good iPhone chargers!

wqaatwt 2y ago

That battery would inevitably be thicker than necessary and have less capacity. Would also more or less stop any potential innovation. > drive down quality. How so?

alkonaut 2y ago

I’m under the impression (probably created by Apple) that anything not tailor made by them is worse. I can charge my phone with any 5V source and the right connector but it’s always slower than an Apple charger. Why, I don’t know. Could be that the phone just recognizes the Apple charger and refuses to charge full speed otherwise. But is there anything that could be done about that? It’s malicious compliance at worst or just a lowest common denominator standard at best. I use third party batteries and the phone refuses to reliably gauge their health (understandable) which makes them objectively worse. The list goes on. It’s bad for the wallet and the environment but people still want to pay for complete tailor made ecosystems and I’m not optimistic that it can change completely via regulation. USB-C standardization lets me charge with a third party charger in a pinch but it still doesn’t rid me of Apple’s monopoly on good iPhone chargers!