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There are a couple 100 or so more Islands all around Singapore. Your comment doesn't say much.

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bobthepanda 2y ago
I think that only proves the point that Singapore is very much an exception and there isn’t any particular need for ships to stop at islands on their way.
- teractiveodular 2y ago
  No, there absolutely is a huge demand for transshipment hubs. By shuttling cargo through Singapore, goods from all across Asia can be consolidated in one point for delivery to various European locations, and vice versa. It's the same model as airport hubs. However, like many network efforts it's a winner-takes-almost-all market. Tanjung Pelepas is just across the border in Malaysia but it was too little, too late.
  - bobthepanda 2y ago
    Sure, but transhipment hubs don’t have to be islands. In fact they usually aren’t. Hawaii isn’t and it’s the only landmass for thousands of miles. Anchorage isn’t for seaborne traffic. Etc. A lot of Singapore’s thing is also manufacturing from raw imports and then shipping out processed goods.
    - thaumasiotes 2y ago
      > but transhipment hubs don’t have to be islands. In fact they usually aren’t. Hawaii isn’t and it’s the only landmass for thousands of miles. Hawaii isn't a hub because it's the only land for thousands of miles. You want the hub to be on the way to wherever you're going, not a quarter of the way across the world from there.
  - rswail 2y ago
    And Singapore has leveraged that trade by implementing tax policies that make it in huge demand for financial trans-shipment. A lot of Australia's resources are bought and sold via Singapore precisely for the tax advantages of funneling things through there without the actual resources going through their ports.
- BurningFrog 2y ago
  The nature of being a transport hub means that there is only one in a given region.
  - bobthepanda 2y ago
    there's a couple hundred million people in Southeast Asia. There can be more than one. In fact, there are. If you look at ports by tonnage, Port Klang in Malaysia is bigger than Rotterdam, and Tanjung Priok in Indonesia is bigger than New York.
    - BurningFrog 2y ago
      What I mean by "transport hub" is a place where you drop of containers to be picked up by other ships to go to their final destination. So you can fill up a ship in LA with containers going to 10 different Asian ports, and drop them all off in Singapore. This works best if everyone does that at one central location. You're right other Asian ports are very big, but I think they more serve as origin or destination.
hinkley 2y ago
Do they have good deep water harbors?

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I think that only proves the point that Singapore is very much an exception and there isn’t any particular need for ships to stop at islands on their way.

teractiveodular 2y ago
No, there absolutely is a huge demand for transshipment hubs. By shuttling cargo through Singapore, goods from all across Asia can be consolidated in one point for delivery to various European locations, and vice versa. It's the same model as airport hubs. However, like many network efforts it's a winner-takes-almost-all market. Tanjung Pelepas is just across the border in Malaysia but it was too little, too late.
- bobthepanda 2y ago
  Sure, but transhipment hubs don’t have to be islands. In fact they usually aren’t. Hawaii isn’t and it’s the only landmass for thousands of miles. Anchorage isn’t for seaborne traffic. Etc. A lot of Singapore’s thing is also manufacturing from raw imports and then shipping out processed goods.
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    > but transhipment hubs don’t have to be islands. In fact they usually aren’t. Hawaii isn’t and it’s the only landmass for thousands of miles. Hawaii isn't a hub because it's the only land for thousands of miles. You want the hub to be on the way to wherever you're going, not a quarter of the way across the world from there.
- rswail 2y ago
  And Singapore has leveraged that trade by implementing tax policies that make it in huge demand for financial trans-shipment. A lot of Australia's resources are bought and sold via Singapore precisely for the tax advantages of funneling things through there without the actual resources going through their ports.
BurningFrog 2y ago
The nature of being a transport hub means that there is only one in a given region.
- bobthepanda 2y ago
  there's a couple hundred million people in Southeast Asia. There can be more than one. In fact, there are. If you look at ports by tonnage, Port Klang in Malaysia is bigger than Rotterdam, and Tanjung Priok in Indonesia is bigger than New York.
  - BurningFrog 2y ago
    What I mean by "transport hub" is a place where you drop of containers to be picked up by other ships to go to their final destination. So you can fill up a ship in LA with containers going to 10 different Asian ports, and drop them all off in Singapore. This works best if everyone does that at one central location. You're right other Asian ports are very big, but I think they more serve as origin or destination.

hinkley 2y ago

Do they have good deep water harbors?