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> don’t build your castle in a kingdom that somebody else controls > I’ll encourage folks to drive those conversations to community-specific spaces (like Disco

> don’t build your castle in a kingdom that somebody else controls > I’ll encourage folks to drive those conversations to community-specific spaces (like Discourse, Discord, etc). Who does the author think controls Discord?

diggan 2y ago
> Who does the author think controls Discord? I think you misunderstand what sort of control they speak about. I think what they're getting at is "Who is doing the moderation?" rather than "Who is maintaining the servers?", so the community aspect instead of the technical details. I think Discord let people do the moderation part pretty much however they want, compared to say Twitter where there is one moderation team that controls it all. Bit similar to Reddit I suppose, although Reddit also have admins/site-wide moderators that clean up across subreddits, so not identical. Still, seems weird to drive people from one castle to another castle, when instead you can drive them to your own website (like with Discourse). But I don't think that's what the author is talking about.
- exodust 2y ago
  The author lists a set of rules, one of which is: "always move people back to your kingdom, never to another kingdom". So he's motivated by "moving people to kingdoms", which sounds like the exact thing he's calling out the big social platforms on, but adopting himself on a smaller scale. In the end, respecting users isn't the guiding force. "Kingdom building" is. Brand building. Users herded like cattle from castle to castle. It's "trust me bro" website ethics replacing corporate social media policies.
  - diggan 2y ago
    I dunno, reading and trying to understand what the author is trying to mean, I still think they're referring to moderation and not servers/infra when they talk about "kingdoms". But I could be wrong, it has happened before so bound to happen sometime again.

diggan 2y ago

> Who does the author think controls Discord? I think you misunderstand what sort of control they speak about. I think what they're getting at is "Who is doing the moderation?" rather than "Who is maintaining the servers?", so the community aspect instead of the technical details. I think Discord let people do the moderation part pretty much however they want, compared to say Twitter where there is one moderation team that controls it all. Bit similar to Reddit I suppose, although Reddit also have admins/site-wide moderators that clean up across subreddits, so not identical. Still, seems weird to drive people from one castle to another castle, when instead you can drive them to your own website (like with Discourse). But I don't think that's what the author is talking about.

exodust 2y ago
The author lists a set of rules, one of which is: "always move people back to your kingdom, never to another kingdom". So he's motivated by "moving people to kingdoms", which sounds like the exact thing he's calling out the big social platforms on, but adopting himself on a smaller scale. In the end, respecting users isn't the guiding force. "Kingdom building" is. Brand building. Users herded like cattle from castle to castle. It's "trust me bro" website ethics replacing corporate social media policies.
- diggan 2y ago
  I dunno, reading and trying to understand what the author is trying to mean, I still think they're referring to moderation and not servers/infra when they talk about "kingdoms". But I could be wrong, it has happened before so bound to happen sometime again.