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Yes I’m sure that Intel fell behind because a for profit company was more concerned with hiring minorities than hiring the best employees they could find. It’s

Yes I’m sure that Intel fell behind because a for profit company was more concerned with hiring minorities than hiring the best employees they could find. It’s amazing that the “take responsibility”, “pull yourself up by your bootstraps crowd” has now become the “we can’t get ahead because of minorities crowd”

tgma 2y ago
Huh, it's not clear what you are suggesting. Who's "we" and who's not taking responsibility? The best people were clearly not staying at Intel and they have been winning hard at AMD, Tesla, NVIDIA, Apple, Qualcomm, and TSMC, in case you have not been paying attention. They could not stop winning and getting ahead in the past 5-10 years, in fact. So much semiconductor innovation happened. Yes, if you start promoting the wrong people, very quickly the best ones leave. No one likes to report to their stupid peer who just got promoted or the idiot they hire from the outside when there are more qualified people they could promote from within. -- And re marketing boxes, just check out where Intel chose to innovate: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/15dx55m/which_i9_box_is_your_favorite_mine_is_9900ks_box/ https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/15dx55m/which_i9_box...
- JustExAWS 2y ago
  The problem with Intel weren’t the technical people. It started with the board laying off people, borrowing money to pay dividends to investors, bad strategy, not building relationships with customers who didn’t want to work with them for fabs, etc and then firing the CEO who had a strategy that they knew was going to take years fo implement It wasn’t because of “DI&E” initiatives and a refusal to hire white people
  - tgma 2y ago
    Cool. And the bad decisions were made by who exactly? Intel executives & employees.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      Intel didn’t hire the board. The board did hire the CEO. The bad decisions either made weren’t the results of “DE&I” initiatives.
  - anticensor 2y ago
    > borrowing money to pay dividends to investor That's scam. If you fail to profit, you should admit it, not fake it.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      Apple did that too for awhile just because it was cheaper for them to borrow money than repatriate their foreign income and pay taxes. The issue with Intel though is that they needed the money to invest in R&D.

tgma 2y ago

Huh, it's not clear what you are suggesting. Who's "we" and who's not taking responsibility? The best people were clearly not staying at Intel and they have been winning hard at AMD, Tesla, NVIDIA, Apple, Qualcomm, and TSMC, in case you have not been paying attention. They could not stop winning and getting ahead in the past 5-10 years, in fact. So much semiconductor innovation happened. Yes, if you start promoting the wrong people, very quickly the best ones leave. No one likes to report to their stupid peer who just got promoted or the idiot they hire from the outside when there are more qualified people they could promote from within. -- And re marketing boxes, just check out where Intel chose to innovate: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/15dx55m/which_i9_box_is_your_favorite_mine_is_9900ks_box/ https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/15dx55m/which_i9_box...

JustExAWS 2y ago
The problem with Intel weren’t the technical people. It started with the board laying off people, borrowing money to pay dividends to investors, bad strategy, not building relationships with customers who didn’t want to work with them for fabs, etc and then firing the CEO who had a strategy that they knew was going to take years fo implement It wasn’t because of “DI&E” initiatives and a refusal to hire white people
- tgma 2y ago
  Cool. And the bad decisions were made by who exactly? Intel executives & employees.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Intel didn’t hire the board. The board did hire the CEO. The bad decisions either made weren’t the results of “DE&I” initiatives.
- anticensor 2y ago
  > borrowing money to pay dividends to investor That's scam. If you fail to profit, you should admit it, not fake it.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Apple did that too for awhile just because it was cheaper for them to borrow money than repatriate their foreign income and pay taxes. The issue with Intel though is that they needed the money to invest in R&D.