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Think of how many Indian spies exist in the US... Is it OK just because there is no anti India narrative in the US?

crop_rotation 2y ago
India is nowhere near being a superpower that could challenge the US so I think the threat is not the same. Plus Indian society is a bit more open and free than Chinese so lots of people told to spy can easily come out.
- throwaway104710 2y ago
  The superpower aspect is true. Otherwise, India is very friendly with Russia. But we (i.e. big capital) want their H1B labor and outsourcing, so the narrative isn't there yet and many tech companies are headed by Indian CEOs. I'm exaggerating the above, but until recently China wasn't deemed to be a problem either, so the narrative does seem to play a role.
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  - crop_rotation 2y ago
    India is friendly with Russia yes but power wise India is just a non entity. It has nothing to make US feel threatened.
    - asdff 2y ago
      India is a nuclear weapon state
  - breadwinner 2y ago
    > until recently China wasn't deemed to be a problem either What changed is Xi Jinping became president. Until then China was considered a good citizen of the world. Xi Jinping started attacking neighbors, claimed ownership of south china sea, and so on, and this aggressive behavior damaged China's reputation.
    - tokioyoyo 2y ago
      I think there's a more important part that we might be overlooking - China is going forward with "play to win" strategy, rather than "play to exist". In the past couple of years, you can see how in North America we've started pushing "we have to win by all means" idea. For the first time, since 80s (when Japan was going to overtake USA), we have a real competitor now. And that competitor has been able to push through policies and prove that they can overcome hardships. They have a big demographics problem, but it's not going to hurt them for the next decade+. Still a long way to go, especially if you consider random statistics like there are 200M gig workers. Basically, USA is scared that a political ideology that's not compatible with the western standards can become the most successful one that lifts its citizens. It will never be liked by any of the governments, because locals will be able to point towards China and say "well, why do they have it better?!".
fidotron 2y ago
And India assassinates people, not just spies on them.

India is nowhere near being a superpower that could challenge the US so I think the threat is not the same. Plus Indian society is a bit more open and free than Chinese so lots of people told to spy can easily come out.

throwaway104710 2y ago
The superpower aspect is true. Otherwise, India is very friendly with Russia. But we (i.e. big capital) want their H1B labor and outsourcing, so the narrative isn't there yet and many tech companies are headed by Indian CEOs. I'm exaggerating the above, but until recently China wasn't deemed to be a problem either, so the narrative does seem to play a role.
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- crop_rotation 2y ago
  India is friendly with Russia yes but power wise India is just a non entity. It has nothing to make US feel threatened.
  - asdff 2y ago
    India is a nuclear weapon state
- breadwinner 2y ago
  > until recently China wasn't deemed to be a problem either What changed is Xi Jinping became president. Until then China was considered a good citizen of the world. Xi Jinping started attacking neighbors, claimed ownership of south china sea, and so on, and this aggressive behavior damaged China's reputation.
  - tokioyoyo 2y ago
    I think there's a more important part that we might be overlooking - China is going forward with "play to win" strategy, rather than "play to exist". In the past couple of years, you can see how in North America we've started pushing "we have to win by all means" idea. For the first time, since 80s (when Japan was going to overtake USA), we have a real competitor now. And that competitor has been able to push through policies and prove that they can overcome hardships. They have a big demographics problem, but it's not going to hurt them for the next decade+. Still a long way to go, especially if you consider random statistics like there are 200M gig workers. Basically, USA is scared that a political ideology that's not compatible with the western standards can become the most successful one that lifts its citizens. It will never be liked by any of the governments, because locals will be able to point towards China and say "well, why do they have it better?!".

fidotron 2y ago

And India assassinates people, not just spies on them.