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i'm sure the vast majority of americans spent 2.5 months on their phones reading books, of course, we have nothing to worry about
by GeoAtreides 2y ago
i'm sure the vast majority of americans spent 2.5 months on their phones reading books, of course, we have nothing to worry about
- swores 2y agoThey very obviously weren't claiming that, they were responding to a specific comment about there being nothing interesting on smartphones. Try to interpret what people say with good faith.
- GeoAtreides 2y agothe subtext of their comment, the unspoken implication, the between the lines meaning was that it's fine people are on their phone all the time, because some of them are reading books
- Dilettante_ 2y agoI didn't read it like that at all.
- GeoAtreides 2y agoobviously I did what do we do now, ask other users for their input? make a poll? i don't know why HN has this habit of using anecdotes as absolute counter-arguments, makes for uninteresting discussion in my opinion and the subtext is always the same "A did/didn't happen to me, so then it follows A does/doesn't happen to anyone"
- Dilettante_ 2y agoActually, you phrased your previous post as though it were a fact, not an opinion, so it's more like "A didn't happen for me, so A does not happen for everyone." I was challenging your assertion, not making a counter-assertion.
- exe34 2y agoI think the implication was that it didn't have to be on tiktok. it's a choice that people make. the phone doesn't force them. rejecting the phone entirely isn't some form of virtue or moral purity.
- GeoAtreides 2y agoTending to one's mental health and advancement is a virtue, falling into abject hedonism is a moral failing
- exe34 2y agoreading a book isn't neither abject hedonism nor a moral failing.
- GeoAtreides 2y agotrue spending 2.5 months doomscrolling or browsing tiktok, on the other hand....
- exe34 2y agoI'll refer you back to my original comment: > I think the implication was that it didn't have to be on tiktok. it's a choice that people make. the phone doesn't force them. rejecting the phone entirely isn't some form of virtue or moral purity.
- GeoAtreides 2y agoarguing semantics in this particular context "rejecting the phone" means "rejecting tiktok" no one was concerned about the phone if the vast majority of users were reading books on it
- exe34 2y agoI get the impression you just didn't read it properly and are now digging in your heels. If "the vast majority of users" could "reject the phone", then they could also "reject tiktok".