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Polish person here, as far as I understand, our SLAPP protections are basically nonexistent, which is why this is allowed to happen. In the US, a lawsuit like
by miki123211 2y ago
Polish person here, as far as I understand, our SLAPP protections are basically nonexistent, which is why this is allowed to happen.
In the US, a lawsuit like this would never fly.
- consp 2y agoIm not familiar with polish law but does the loser pay all like in most other countries in the EU? (And pays more if deemed frivolous) does not solve the money up front problem but might bite them in the ass afterwards.
- jakozaur 2y agoThe loser pays, but the fees are capped in Poland relatively to low amount.
- jakozaur 2y agoIn the USA there are many lawsuits and they could bankrupt you just by making a painful discovery. Though Poland needs to modernize it's law.
- llm_trw 2y agoA reminder that Musk was willing to spend $44b rather than go through discovery in a civil lawsuit. That should tell you something about how fucked the system is.
- Wowfunhappy 2y agoWell, but Musk was going to loose anyway. His options were: - Pay $44 billion. - Pay $44 billion and go through Discovery.
- llm_trw 2y agoOption C). Pay 1 billion to keep the lawsuit going forever.
- gruez 2y agoCan you really keep a lawsuit going "forever"? You'd probably run out of appeal options around 5-10 years in.
- freehorse 2y agoDoubtful twitter would last more than the lawsuit
- arcticbull 2y agoIt was doing kinda okay actually, lol, it's doing much worse now.
- acdha 2y agoTwitter was profitable for a few quarters before the purchase, and the last one was distorted by a one-time legal penalty. They weren’t printing money like Facebook but a business making profits measured in the tens of hundreds of millions can hire a lot of lawyers indefinitely.
- lifestyleguru 2y ago[flagged]
- ajuc 2y agoThe basic difference that makes it slightly less of a deal than it looks like is - unlike in the US - the whole lawsuit costs in Poland are paid by the person that lost the case. The issue is still having the money when you need them before you win, and the lost time and nerves. Even choosing 2 different courts in opposite sides of Poland is pointing at this tactic by Newag.
- jfengel 2y agoThe bar to proving SLAPP is quite high in the US. The protections do exist but they're so obscure and difficult that nobody feels safe, and invalid suits occur all the time.
- wombatpm 2y agoThe bar varies state by state. In CA it’s reasonable, in TX not so much.
- dreamcompiler 2y agoSLAPP protections in the US vary by state because there is no federal anti-SLAPP statute [yet].
- arcticbull 2y agoSLAPP laws in the US vary from place to place, from fairly strong to non-existent. California has strong anti-SLAPP protection, whereas Michigan and Alabama have none at all. There is no federal anti-SLAPP law. So at least federally and in certain US states such litigation would absolutely fly in the US.