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So if we swap around a few of the particulars -- say, make the guy with the camera black, relocate the scene to the deep South, and then make the three perpetra
by patio11 14y ago
So if we swap around a few of the particulars -- say, make the guy with the camera black, relocate the scene to the deep South, and then make the three perpetrators good old boys -- a fairly plausible hypothesis would rush to mind, even if it is outside the experience of the typical white American at the typical McDonalds. Mafia fronts certainly exist in the world, but they are probably greatly outnumbered by petty people who, given authority over someone they dislike (+), would abuse it if it were consequence-free.
+ It isn't even necessary to assume that the language barrier or anti-Americanism had anything to do with it. I mean, even in the deep South, a good old boy might try to rip a prosthesis off a black guy's head just because he doesn't like "weird Treky shit."
- spitx 14y agoJust so we are all on the same page, the males look of distinct North-African extraction - Algerian, Moroccan, Egyptian or Libyan.
- andrewfelix 14y agoIt's France. They're French.
- philwelch 14y agoThough there are also many French of Algerian extraction.
- andrewfelix 14y agoI'm of South African 'extraction', but you wouldn't know unless you asked me.
- pyre 14y agoThere are a lot of Moroccans in Paris, from what I understand. Wasn't that what those riots a few years back were about? The Moroccans immigrating but not integrating?
- nakkiel 14y agoWell, the more people wonder whether French of Moroccan extraction really are French or Moroccan, the less French they are. I'm French, of no extraction. Please stop. French of Moroccan extraction are French. Regarding the riots, that's also not relevant to the discussion but because you ask, those riots where the results of 40 years of bad policies, social rejection and latent racism.
- spitx 14y agoThe reason I or anyone else would have, to bring up their ancestry is because of the apparent disconnect between the essential Frenchness one expects and the consistently abrasive conduct of some of these implanted peoples. Take Mahiedine Mekhissi-Benabbad for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCXtmmj7fJc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCXtmmj7fJc Isolated incident? Perhaps. Not part of a larger trend? Maybe. After all the cake and watermelon, we know that it doesn't add up. We all want to pretend that it ain't what it really is. Just like we find ourselves aghast at Marine Le Pen picking up enough seats to front the third largest party in all of France in well under a decade.
- urbanjunkie 14y agoWhat The Actual Fuck? HN is no place for a racist dick. Kindly fuck off. [edited to add - I expect downvotes or even a ban for my language. I will find a way of coping with my grief, so don't worry about it]
- spitx 14y agoWhatever "Essential Frenchness" is, it most certainly is not centered around the milieu of the "beur". We agree that visitors don't come to France to be greeted by the likes of Galliano but they don't come looking for the likes of Salafists like Mohammed Merah either. Get your act together before its too late. You can only sweep these things under the rug for so long.
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- nakkiel 14y agoI don't see how it's relevant.
- gori 14y agoJust so we're all on the same - very ignorant - page, are you talking race in 2012? Come on, todays French are a big mix of whatever. This mix is what is French.
- sball 14y agoThat is just pure left-wing bullshit. If the integration has failed, it has failed. Don't try and smooth over stuff with the current year as an argument, it's just silly! If you tried walk up the street (or even out of your apartment) away from your little tight and secure neighbourship and started looking around how people are segregated into the suburbs, creating alienation, poverty and criminality, you'd really not spew out that kind of one-liner hypocrite B.S.
- chappi42 14y agoIt happened at few times too me that I experienced quite a 'macho' or aggressive behaviour 'from people of those cultures'. What would you expect, just be quiet?
- andrewfelix 14y agoThis getting ridiculous. I've experienced aggressive behaviour from a lot of white Australians. Should I make a judgement of the entire population based on those anecdotal experiences? Aggression is everywhere, it has very little to do with your cultural heritage unless you're a bloody Spartan. If you want don't want to be quiet about your racial prejudices, go find a forum for it. There should be plenty of mindless goons out there willing to discuss it with you. Try the youtube comments section.
- tkahn6 14y ago"it has very little to do with your cultural heritage unless you're a bloody Spartan." The fact that you acknowledge that there exists a culture whose adherents are more prone to be adversarial means you accept OP's point.
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- EdiX 14y agoDo they? How can you tell with their face obscured?
- eavc 14y agoYou could also get a plausible explanation if you make the three employees drug-addled miscreants and the man with the glasses a vulnerable woman carrying and displaying large amounts of cash and the setting a back alley in Dubai. This story is strange precisely because it is not a scenario where an explanation springs to mind. People are known to be petty and cruel to the point of assault, but people who are employees of a company like McDonald's in a city like Paris are not.