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Tragically it appears that out of 181 onboard only two have survived. If true, this would be South Korea’s worst domestic civil aviation disaster. [1][2] [1] h

Tragically it appears that out of 181 onboard only two have survived. If true, this would be South Korea’s worst domestic civil aviation disaster. [1][2] [1] https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20241229001054315 https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20241229001054315 [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/29/south-korea-plane-crash-casualties-reported-after-jeju-air-flight-veers-off-runway-at-muan-airport-live-updates https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/29/south-kor...

shepherdjerred 2y ago
After watching the video it’s amazing that anyone survived
- nicce 2y ago
  Would it be reasonable to increase the length of the runway (or longer non-blocking area) based on these incidents, even if they are extremely rare.
  - EthicalSimilar 2y ago
    Do gravel traps work with planes..?
    - cjrp 2y ago
      There’s similar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_materials_arrestor_system https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_materials_arresto...
    - kashunstva 2y ago
      Engineered Material Arresting System (EMAS) are installed in the overrun area of many but certainly not all runways. No idea about this airport. And I’m not sure how effective EMAS is in a gear-up landing such as this accident.
      - orbital-decay 2y ago
        EMAS does not help in a belly landing at all. It's engineered to be crushed by the wheels.
- cyberlimerence 2y ago
  Apparently two survivors are the crew members who were at the tail section. Even if (big if) their physical injuries are not critical, they are likely permanently psychologically scarred. I somehow doubt you can continue working in an airline after that.
  - aaron695 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - Swenrekcah 2y ago
      Look I understand the sentiment to be annoyed by some people think they are traumatised because someone called them by the wrong name or called them a bigot or something. This is not that.
      - michaelsshaw 2y ago
        I think Aaron is referring more to the unreal expectations placed on people who experience shocking events. You'll hear things like "how can you still do this?" Or being treated like not a person, but a vessel to receive the sympathy of others. The expectations of you being "fucked up" or "scarred" is imposed on you from others and is obnoxious, if I'm being honest. I'd go easy on him, it sounds like he may have experienced that feeling recently.
        Swenrekcah 2y ago
        Fair point, I didn’t think of that possibility. And I do agree, it is sometimes like people see those kinds of traumas experienced by other people as marketing opportunities for themselves.
        potato3732842 2y ago
        >The expectations of you being "fucked up" or "scarred" is imposed on you from others and is obnoxious, It's worse than that. Societal expectations of whether one ought to be traumatized play a huge part in whether people are traumatized. So all these people are making the problem worse.

shepherdjerred 2y ago

After watching the video it’s amazing that anyone survived

nicce 2y ago
Would it be reasonable to increase the length of the runway (or longer non-blocking area) based on these incidents, even if they are extremely rare.
- EthicalSimilar 2y ago
  Do gravel traps work with planes..?
  - cjrp 2y ago
    There’s similar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_materials_arrestor_system https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineered_materials_arresto...
  - kashunstva 2y ago
    Engineered Material Arresting System (EMAS) are installed in the overrun area of many but certainly not all runways. No idea about this airport. And I’m not sure how effective EMAS is in a gear-up landing such as this accident.
    - orbital-decay 2y ago
      EMAS does not help in a belly landing at all. It's engineered to be crushed by the wheels.
cyberlimerence 2y ago
Apparently two survivors are the crew members who were at the tail section. Even if (big if) their physical injuries are not critical, they are likely permanently psychologically scarred. I somehow doubt you can continue working in an airline after that.
- aaron695 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - Swenrekcah 2y ago
    Look I understand the sentiment to be annoyed by some people think they are traumatised because someone called them by the wrong name or called them a bigot or something. This is not that.
    - michaelsshaw 2y ago
      I think Aaron is referring more to the unreal expectations placed on people who experience shocking events. You'll hear things like "how can you still do this?" Or being treated like not a person, but a vessel to receive the sympathy of others. The expectations of you being "fucked up" or "scarred" is imposed on you from others and is obnoxious, if I'm being honest. I'd go easy on him, it sounds like he may have experienced that feeling recently.
      - Swenrekcah 2y ago
        Fair point, I didn’t think of that possibility. And I do agree, it is sometimes like people see those kinds of traumas experienced by other people as marketing opportunities for themselves.
      - potato3732842 2y ago
        >The expectations of you being "fucked up" or "scarred" is imposed on you from others and is obnoxious, It's worse than that. Societal expectations of whether one ought to be traumatized play a huge part in whether people are traumatized. So all these people are making the problem worse.