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Birdstrike #2 engine possibly captured on video: https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1873181671375421703 https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1873181671375421

by tedd4u 2y ago

Birdstrike #2 engine possibly captured on video: https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1873181671375421703 https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1873181671375421703

buildsjets 2y ago
Bird concentration chart for the airport, as published by the Korea Office of Civil Aviation. Really not sure what they would expect a pilot do with this information. Also not really sure how they convince the birds to stay in the marked areas. http://aim.koca.go.kr/eaipPub/Package/2022-06-30/pdf/AD/RKJB/(2-23)%20BIRD%20CONCENTRATION%20CHART.pdf http://aim.koca.go.kr/eaipPub/Package/2022-06-30/pdf/AD/RKJB...
- kylehotchkiss 2y ago
  I like Delhi's solution. They shoot cannons (unclear what's in them) all day to keep the birds away from the runway. This is probably super common, I just haven't seen it done elsewhere.
  - kijin 2y ago
    They shoot blank rounds. The noise is what chases birds away, and you don't want any stray projectiles flying about in an airport.
    - buildsjets 2y ago
      Uh, no. That would be WAY too expensive and difficult to automate. They run off of propane. Search your favorite engine for “bird scare cannon”. Or buy this one off amazon. https://www.amazon.com/SlavicBeauty-Wildlife-Propane-Scarecrow-Mechanical/dp/B07HQ2BRH3 https://www.amazon.com/SlavicBeauty-Wildlife-Propane-Scarecr...
      - kijin 2y ago
        Not sure what they use in Delhi, but here in Korea we actually have rangers who shoot blank rounds at birds to chase them away at airports. See first photo in https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20230307131700056 https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20230307131700056 (article in Korean) The machine in the second photo looks like a cannon but actually sprays insecticide. The goal is to remove insects that the birds feed on, giving them less reason to approach the area in the first place. Due to the proximity of most Korean airports to residential areas and important military targets, an automated cannon that makes explosive sounds at random would be a big no-no. People would think the airport was being bombarded, or more likely, the President had declared martial law again :(
        seoulbigchris 2y ago
        I live less than a km from a small airport in South Korea, and hear that "cannon" going off all the time. Now I'm curious, is it propane or a person? I'm going to be on the lookout now.
  - phil21 2y ago
    It’s pretty common, cannons or guns shooting blanks. My son actually has a temporary gig for the next 3 months at a major U.S. airport where he’s tasked with flying a drone to scare birds away as needed.
    - rplnt 2y ago
      I remember airports having birds of prey that they would keep around and deploy for this purpose. Drones are probably much cheaper.
    - kylehotchkiss 2y ago
      I have to give him props, that is a pretty cool gig!
      - yard2010 2y ago
        He probably already has props, but I'm sure he can use some extras
  - buildsjets 2y ago
    That only addresses birds on or very near the airport property, and at very low altitudes. It’s not particularly effective, because the birds just move somewhere close by and settle down. It can also be counterproductive, because scaring birds generally causes them to fly. In the air. Where the airplanes are.

by tedd4u 2y ago

Birdstrike #2 engine possibly captured on video: https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1873181671375421703 https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1873181671375421703

buildsjets 2y ago

Bird concentration chart for the airport, as published by the Korea Office of Civil Aviation. Really not sure what they would expect a pilot do with this information. Also not really sure how they convince the birds to stay in the marked areas. http://aim.koca.go.kr/eaipPub/Package/2022-06-30/pdf/AD/RKJB/(2-23)%20BIRD%20CONCENTRATION%20CHART.pdf http://aim.koca.go.kr/eaipPub/Package/2022-06-30/pdf/AD/RKJB...

kylehotchkiss 2y ago
I like Delhi's solution. They shoot cannons (unclear what's in them) all day to keep the birds away from the runway. This is probably super common, I just haven't seen it done elsewhere.
- kijin 2y ago
  They shoot blank rounds. The noise is what chases birds away, and you don't want any stray projectiles flying about in an airport.
  - buildsjets 2y ago
    Uh, no. That would be WAY too expensive and difficult to automate. They run off of propane. Search your favorite engine for “bird scare cannon”. Or buy this one off amazon. https://www.amazon.com/SlavicBeauty-Wildlife-Propane-Scarecrow-Mechanical/dp/B07HQ2BRH3 https://www.amazon.com/SlavicBeauty-Wildlife-Propane-Scarecr...
    - kijin 2y ago
      Not sure what they use in Delhi, but here in Korea we actually have rangers who shoot blank rounds at birds to chase them away at airports. See first photo in https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20230307131700056 https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20230307131700056 (article in Korean) The machine in the second photo looks like a cannon but actually sprays insecticide. The goal is to remove insects that the birds feed on, giving them less reason to approach the area in the first place. Due to the proximity of most Korean airports to residential areas and important military targets, an automated cannon that makes explosive sounds at random would be a big no-no. People would think the airport was being bombarded, or more likely, the President had declared martial law again :(
      - seoulbigchris 2y ago
        I live less than a km from a small airport in South Korea, and hear that "cannon" going off all the time. Now I'm curious, is it propane or a person? I'm going to be on the lookout now.
- phil21 2y ago
  It’s pretty common, cannons or guns shooting blanks. My son actually has a temporary gig for the next 3 months at a major U.S. airport where he’s tasked with flying a drone to scare birds away as needed.
  - rplnt 2y ago
    I remember airports having birds of prey that they would keep around and deploy for this purpose. Drones are probably much cheaper.
  - kylehotchkiss 2y ago
    I have to give him props, that is a pretty cool gig!
    - yard2010 2y ago
      He probably already has props, but I'm sure he can use some extras
- buildsjets 2y ago
  That only addresses birds on or very near the airport property, and at very low altitudes. It’s not particularly effective, because the birds just move somewhere close by and settle down. It can also be counterproductive, because scaring birds generally causes them to fly. In the air. Where the airplanes are.