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I downloaded five years of H-1B data from the US DOL website (4M+ records)

32 points by sergiotapia 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
How middlemen are gaming the H-1B program - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41123945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41123945 - Jul 2024 (57 comments)
photochemsyn 2y ago
Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37444386 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37444386 - Sept 9, 2023 (478 comments)
paxys 2y ago
> To start with, this program is MASSIVELY popular with employers. The program has a statutory limit of 85,000 visas per year, but employers routinely receive approval for more than 800k applications per year (868k, or 10x the limit, in 2024). The entire thread is deliberately misleading. 868k applications were "approved" to enter the lottery. Because of how the lottery works employers are incentivized to file as many applications as possible. So doing any kind of analysis on pre-lottery data is pointless. Why not show the same charts for actual visas that were stamped? I guess because cutting all the numbers by >90% doesn't push your narrative as much?
- sergiotapia 2y ago
  >So doing any kind of analysis on pre-lottery data is pointless Why is this pointless? It clearly shows the sheer amount of applications. I think it's a very important piece of data.
  - garyfirestorm 2y ago
    0% of that number is still pointless.
- slimebot80 2y ago
  At the beginning he states: "Before I start, one note: All charts in this thread are for applications that were “certified” (in other words, (approved for entry into the H-1B lottery)." It's up to the reader to keep this in mind. So maybe not deliberately misleading - but many of X will read with bias due to the nature of Elon's "Town Square".
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Most H1B applications go to a few companies. It’s interesting that the sentiment that it hurts employment of American citizens goes far beyond those few companies though.
devops99 2y ago
https://xcancel.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873174358535110953

32 points by sergiotapia 2y ago

How middlemen are gaming the H-1B program - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41123945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41123945 - Jul 2024 (57 comments)

photochemsyn 2y ago

Google, Meta, Amazon hiring low-paid H1B workers after US layoffs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37444386 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37444386 - Sept 9, 2023 (478 comments)

paxys 2y ago

> To start with, this program is MASSIVELY popular with employers. The program has a statutory limit of 85,000 visas per year, but employers routinely receive approval for more than 800k applications per year (868k, or 10x the limit, in 2024). The entire thread is deliberately misleading. 868k applications were "approved" to enter the lottery. Because of how the lottery works employers are incentivized to file as many applications as possible. So doing any kind of analysis on pre-lottery data is pointless. Why not show the same charts for actual visas that were stamped? I guess because cutting all the numbers by >90% doesn't push your narrative as much?

sergiotapia 2y ago
>So doing any kind of analysis on pre-lottery data is pointless Why is this pointless? It clearly shows the sheer amount of applications. I think it's a very important piece of data.
- garyfirestorm 2y ago
  0% of that number is still pointless.
slimebot80 2y ago
At the beginning he states: "Before I start, one note: All charts in this thread are for applications that were “certified” (in other words, (approved for entry into the H-1B lottery)." It's up to the reader to keep this in mind. So maybe not deliberately misleading - but many of X will read with bias due to the nature of Elon's "Town Square".

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

Most H1B applications go to a few companies. It’s interesting that the sentiment that it hurts employment of American citizens goes far beyond those few companies though.

devops99 2y ago

https://xcancel.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873174358535110953