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When billions - perhaps trillions - of dollars are on the line, CEOs and their associates will stop at nothing to get that money. They're surely not going to le

When billions - perhaps trillions - of dollars are on the line, CEOs and their associates will stop at nothing to get that money. They're surely not going to let the life of a single person stand in their way. Look at what the eBay CEO did to someone simply criticizing them.

gruez 2y ago
>Look at what the eBay CEO did to someone simply criticizing them. If you're trying to imply openai killed him and that's the best example of corporate retaliation you can come up with, then you're nowhere close to proving your point. Sending pigs heads is despicable, by nowhere close to ordering a hit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal
- hulitu 2y ago
  "Seven eBay employees pleaded guilty to charges involving criminal conspiracies.[3][4] The seven employees included two senior members of eBay’s corporate security team.[5] Two members of eBay's Executive Leadership Team who were implicated in the scandal were not charged" Speaks for itself.
- whatshisface 2y ago
  It represents the same psychology on the part of the perpetrator.
  - gruez 2y ago
    ...that the (seemingly) most insane executive we know of is sane enough to not commit murder?
    - whatshisface 2y ago
      The people who commit these crimes are not bounded between ranges like normal people.
      - gruez 2y ago
        Again, that's the claim you're trying to argue for, but the best evidence you presented so far (ebay harassment case) doesn't prove that. It shows that they're at least not willing to commit murder. Maybe there's some psycho CEO out there that did order a hit, but you haven't presented that, and it's a stretch to go from "sending pig's head" to "ordering a hit".
        nobodyandproud 2y ago
        Your argument is a catch 22.
- WillyWonkaJr 2y ago
  I'm implying that is something that needs to be investigated. The motive is there: hundreds of billions of dollars. And people do not become billionaires by being nice and playing nice. Many of them have clinical psychopathy (ASPD). Do you think the Boeing whistle blowers just keep running into bad luck?
  - hulitu 2y ago
    > I'm implying that is something that needs to be investigated See the link to Ebay stalking. Executives are above the law.
  - gruez 2y ago
    >Do you think the Boeing whistle blowers just keep running into bad luck? "Bad luck" implies they're dying at a higher rate than expected. Do you have any evidence that's the case, factoring in the fact that being a whistleblower is stressful? Stunt drivers probably die in occupational related deaths at a far higher rate than expected, but I don't think it's "bad luck" or make posts calling for police to reinvestigate on the off chance that the accident was actually a murder.
    - WillyWonkaJr 2y ago
      Here's an article that sheds light on how many of these billionaires think: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prep... Excerpt: "They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival."
      - gruez 2y ago
        Your argument is that owning a doomsday bunker means you're the type of person who'd order hits?
- piyh 2y ago
  I listened to the podcast "Kill List" where journalists got backend access to a hitman for hire website and do episodes featuring targeted individuals they notified. What I got out of it is a garden variety abuser crosses the threshold to actually ordering a hit when the abuser felt they lost power over the abused. A whistleblower about to publicly testify would 100% match up with that.

gruez 2y ago

>Look at what the eBay CEO did to someone simply criticizing them. If you're trying to imply openai killed him and that's the best example of corporate retaliation you can come up with, then you're nowhere close to proving your point. Sending pigs heads is despicable, by nowhere close to ordering a hit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal

hulitu 2y ago
"Seven eBay employees pleaded guilty to charges involving criminal conspiracies.[3][4] The seven employees included two senior members of eBay’s corporate security team.[5] Two members of eBay's Executive Leadership Team who were implicated in the scandal were not charged" Speaks for itself.
whatshisface 2y ago
It represents the same psychology on the part of the perpetrator.
- gruez 2y ago
  ...that the (seemingly) most insane executive we know of is sane enough to not commit murder?
  - whatshisface 2y ago
    The people who commit these crimes are not bounded between ranges like normal people.
    - gruez 2y ago
      Again, that's the claim you're trying to argue for, but the best evidence you presented so far (ebay harassment case) doesn't prove that. It shows that they're at least not willing to commit murder. Maybe there's some psycho CEO out there that did order a hit, but you haven't presented that, and it's a stretch to go from "sending pig's head" to "ordering a hit".
      - nobodyandproud 2y ago
        Your argument is a catch 22.
WillyWonkaJr 2y ago
I'm implying that is something that needs to be investigated. The motive is there: hundreds of billions of dollars. And people do not become billionaires by being nice and playing nice. Many of them have clinical psychopathy (ASPD). Do you think the Boeing whistle blowers just keep running into bad luck?
- hulitu 2y ago
  > I'm implying that is something that needs to be investigated See the link to Ebay stalking. Executives are above the law.
- gruez 2y ago
  >Do you think the Boeing whistle blowers just keep running into bad luck? "Bad luck" implies they're dying at a higher rate than expected. Do you have any evidence that's the case, factoring in the fact that being a whistleblower is stressful? Stunt drivers probably die in occupational related deaths at a far higher rate than expected, but I don't think it's "bad luck" or make posts calling for police to reinvestigate on the off chance that the accident was actually a murder.
  - WillyWonkaJr 2y ago
    Here's an article that sheds light on how many of these billionaires think: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prep... Excerpt: "They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival."
    - gruez 2y ago
      Your argument is that owning a doomsday bunker means you're the type of person who'd order hits?
piyh 2y ago
I listened to the podcast "Kill List" where journalists got backend access to a hitman for hire website and do episodes featuring targeted individuals they notified. What I got out of it is a garden variety abuser crosses the threshold to actually ordering a hit when the abuser felt they lost power over the abused. A whistleblower about to publicly testify would 100% match up with that.