Thanks. I've been away and Its not often one gets defended like this on HN. Actually the parent is wrong. As we were talking about ideas and thinking in the re

Thanks. I've been away and Its not often one gets defended like this on HN. Actually the parent is wrong. As we were talking about ideas and thinking in the revolutions (rather than the fighting), the two were contemporaneous in part and influenced each other. See for example the strong links between the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789) and the US bill of rights (1789-1791).