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This is about Directive (EU) 2022/2380[1]. It does mention USB-PD: > In so far as they are capable of being recharged by means of wired charging at voltages hi

This is about Directive (EU) 2022/2380[1]. It does mention USB-PD: > In so far as they are capable of being recharged by means of wired charging at voltages higher than 5 Volts, currents higher than 3 Amperes or powers higher than 15 Watts, the categories or classes of radio equipment referred to in point 1 of this Part shall: > 3.1. incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the standard EN IEC 62680-1-2:2021 “Universal serial bus interfaces for data and power – Part 1-2: Common components – USB Power Delivery specification”; [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv%3AOJ.L_.2022.315.01.0030.01.ENG&toc=OJ%3AL%3A2022%3A315%3ATOC https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv%...

orra 2y ago
This hopefully means the end to standards-violating nonsense like SuperVOOC? Originally SuperVOOC wasn't USB-PD compatible at all. Now, AIUI, SuperVOOC is partly USB-PD compatible, but only to lower wattages.
- Kirby64 2y ago
  Why would it? If you can charge the phone with PD, but also with proprietary standards that offer something better it would meet the regulation. Seems like the best of both worlds.
  - orra 2y ago
    No, what you describe is not better. Quite the opposite. First, USB PD is capable of much higher wattages than what SuperVOOC artificially caps USB PD to. Second, proprietary charging standards are not compliant with the USB specification, so it didn't meet the regulation.
    - Kirby64 2y ago
      Again, why would it be worse? There’s very real benefits to some of the proprietary standards that you can’t get from PD. Just because PD offers higher wattage doesn’t mean the overall charging is faster. If you have to generate a ton of heat to convert the incoming power to voltage that the battery can take, it will hinder how fast you can charge your phone. This is especially problematic at higher voltages.
  - bmicraft 2y ago
    But that's just another bullshit excuse to stay proprietary. SuperVOOC doesn't really do anything special that isn't also achievable using the PD PPS (programmable power supply) specification.

orra 2y ago

This hopefully means the end to standards-violating nonsense like SuperVOOC? Originally SuperVOOC wasn't USB-PD compatible at all. Now, AIUI, SuperVOOC is partly USB-PD compatible, but only to lower wattages.

Kirby64 2y ago
Why would it? If you can charge the phone with PD, but also with proprietary standards that offer something better it would meet the regulation. Seems like the best of both worlds.
- orra 2y ago
  No, what you describe is not better. Quite the opposite. First, USB PD is capable of much higher wattages than what SuperVOOC artificially caps USB PD to. Second, proprietary charging standards are not compliant with the USB specification, so it didn't meet the regulation.
  - Kirby64 2y ago
    Again, why would it be worse? There’s very real benefits to some of the proprietary standards that you can’t get from PD. Just because PD offers higher wattage doesn’t mean the overall charging is faster. If you have to generate a ton of heat to convert the incoming power to voltage that the battery can take, it will hinder how fast you can charge your phone. This is especially problematic at higher voltages.
- bmicraft 2y ago
  But that's just another bullshit excuse to stay proprietary. SuperVOOC doesn't really do anything special that isn't also achievable using the PD PPS (programmable power supply) specification.