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- NBA has become unwatchable - not my opinion, the ratings are down through and through - Christmas used to be owned by NBA, this time only 12% of sports fans

- NBA has become unwatchable - not my opinion, the ratings are down through and through - Christmas used to be owned by NBA, this time only 12% of sports fans watched the game. NFL has two games on Netflix that killed all hopes of decent viewership - that analytics have caught up that 3-pt is not a little more than 2-pt, it is 50 (FIFTY) percent more - the entire game has now become chuck 3’s for 48 minutes (I am more than casual NBA fan and I tried watching a local game few days ago, LaMelo Ball shot 10 3’s… IN THE FIRST QUARTER) NBA needs to figure this shit out and faaaaaast as even someone like me who generally watches 50+ games per year before playoffs on TV and dozen or so in person is losing interest in the product

HelloMcFly 2y ago
> NBA has become unwatchable... not my opinion, the ratings are down through and through First of all, this is clearly an opinion. It isn't debatable that the ratings are down, but since the ratings are down for all broadcast and cable TV broadly it isn't that damning of NBA specifically, and certainly isn't a strong supporting fact that NBA games themselves are "unwatchable". > Christmas used to be owned by NBA, this time only 12% of sports fans watched the game The NBA can't compete with the NFL on ratings, and it's a fool's errand to make that the standard. The NFL is the ratings juggernaut in America, nothing compares to it. The NBA's viewership numbers for Christmas saw a substantial increase this year with the highest viewership since 2019. A big issue has been how hard it can be for many fans to watch their own team's home games due to regional sports networks and blackout rules for cable, or high expense for a standalone streaming network. Whether the new broadcast deal helps or hurts this remains to be seen - I think splitting the games up across so many services is going to have a continued negative effect even if it's very lucrative for the league. That said, I can't argue with your lived experience. I do think the idea that every time plays the same way is out-and-out preposterous, but I think the bigger issue is a) an overall soft whistle has made it hard to play defense esp on three-point shooting and b) refs are inconsistent at best, arbitrary at median, and petty at worst.
- xhkkffbf 2y ago
  I think the poster was saying, "This isn't just my own, lone opinion. Many others seem to feel the same way." And that becomes a problem for the business, despite your own stat about the Christmas numbers.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    I mean post Christmas I was listening to local sports radio better part of the day while driving my wife and kid around … hours and hours and hours on this topic, caller after caller after caller… - season is so long, who gives a shit about game on Dec 25th cause it is 100% meaningless - why even play the game, make them just shoot 3’s like at NBA allstar game - 7-footers making 3’s should be a rarity (Dirk), not every-fucking-player-shoots-more-than-Steph - there is no flow to the game, they may as well eliminate coaching if 60% of your offense is “someone chuck it”
- bdangubic 2y ago
  ratings are down for all broadcast and cable TV broadly it isn't that damning of NBA specifically, and certainly isn't a strong supporting fact that NBA games themselves are "unwatchable". you are right, the ratings are down but not for all the sports, I think NBA specifically has an issue they need to resolve. and my words were harsh but I spoke my mind so-to-speak - I am losing interest watching games where it is not uncommon to see more than half the shots taken be 3’s… I agree with both your points A and B. the article does mention hand-checking outside the box etc which totally makes sense. If I was Silver I would - SHORTEN the season. I would make Christmas opening night of the league. If NFL wants to take over everything NBA needs to either admit defeat or fight a bit, opening on Christmas would help both with making season shorter and making it more attractive. - Both your A and B points - Move 3-pt line back to 27+ feet
  - epmatsw 2y ago
    Shortening the regular season is the answer. Too many games, too many teams in the playoffs, means that no game has any impact vs an NFL game.
dkkergoog 2y ago
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chrismcb 2y ago
"analytics have caught up" this seems like an odd statement. For the longest time 3 point average was about 1/3 while the two point shot was around 1/2. So it doesn't really matter which shot you took, other than you have a limited number of shots. But once the odds of making the 3 pointer creeps higher than 1/3, then it becomes with more. Has nothing to do with analysis catching up.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  very short-sighted… once the analytics figured out how much of a statistical advantage 3-pt shot is the whole focus becomes 3-pt, fucking david betrans made $84,668,582 - I would beat him 1-on-1 if he was not allowed outside of 3-pt line…
  - fourmajor 2y ago
    No, you wouldn't.
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      I was being facetious, of course I wouldn’t (though I rock the YMCA) :)

HelloMcFly 2y ago

> NBA has become unwatchable... not my opinion, the ratings are down through and through First of all, this is clearly an opinion. It isn't debatable that the ratings are down, but since the ratings are down for all broadcast and cable TV broadly it isn't that damning of NBA specifically, and certainly isn't a strong supporting fact that NBA games themselves are "unwatchable". > Christmas used to be owned by NBA, this time only 12% of sports fans watched the game The NBA can't compete with the NFL on ratings, and it's a fool's errand to make that the standard. The NFL is the ratings juggernaut in America, nothing compares to it. The NBA's viewership numbers for Christmas saw a substantial increase this year with the highest viewership since 2019. A big issue has been how hard it can be for many fans to watch their own team's home games due to regional sports networks and blackout rules for cable, or high expense for a standalone streaming network. Whether the new broadcast deal helps or hurts this remains to be seen - I think splitting the games up across so many services is going to have a continued negative effect even if it's very lucrative for the league. That said, I can't argue with your lived experience. I do think the idea that every time plays the same way is out-and-out preposterous, but I think the bigger issue is a) an overall soft whistle has made it hard to play defense esp on three-point shooting and b) refs are inconsistent at best, arbitrary at median, and petty at worst.

xhkkffbf 2y ago
I think the poster was saying, "This isn't just my own, lone opinion. Many others seem to feel the same way." And that becomes a problem for the business, despite your own stat about the Christmas numbers.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  I mean post Christmas I was listening to local sports radio better part of the day while driving my wife and kid around … hours and hours and hours on this topic, caller after caller after caller… - season is so long, who gives a shit about game on Dec 25th cause it is 100% meaningless - why even play the game, make them just shoot 3’s like at NBA allstar game - 7-footers making 3’s should be a rarity (Dirk), not every-fucking-player-shoots-more-than-Steph - there is no flow to the game, they may as well eliminate coaching if 60% of your offense is “someone chuck it”
bdangubic 2y ago
ratings are down for all broadcast and cable TV broadly it isn't that damning of NBA specifically, and certainly isn't a strong supporting fact that NBA games themselves are "unwatchable". you are right, the ratings are down but not for all the sports, I think NBA specifically has an issue they need to resolve. and my words were harsh but I spoke my mind so-to-speak - I am losing interest watching games where it is not uncommon to see more than half the shots taken be 3’s… I agree with both your points A and B. the article does mention hand-checking outside the box etc which totally makes sense. If I was Silver I would - SHORTEN the season. I would make Christmas opening night of the league. If NFL wants to take over everything NBA needs to either admit defeat or fight a bit, opening on Christmas would help both with making season shorter and making it more attractive. - Both your A and B points - Move 3-pt line back to 27+ feet
- epmatsw 2y ago
  Shortening the regular season is the answer. Too many games, too many teams in the playoffs, means that no game has any impact vs an NFL game.

dkkergoog 2y ago

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chrismcb 2y ago

"analytics have caught up" this seems like an odd statement. For the longest time 3 point average was about 1/3 while the two point shot was around 1/2. So it doesn't really matter which shot you took, other than you have a limited number of shots. But once the odds of making the 3 pointer creeps higher than 1/3, then it becomes with more. Has nothing to do with analysis catching up.

bdangubic 2y ago
very short-sighted… once the analytics figured out how much of a statistical advantage 3-pt shot is the whole focus becomes 3-pt, fucking david betrans made $84,668,582 - I would beat him 1-on-1 if he was not allowed outside of 3-pt line…
- fourmajor 2y ago
  No, you wouldn't.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    I was being facetious, of course I wouldn’t (though I rock the YMCA) :)