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What should be illegal, specifically? What concrete action should be made illegal? These are people hired locally within their respective countries by local co

What should be illegal, specifically? What concrete action should be made illegal? These are people hired locally within their respective countries by local corporations owned by holdings in the US. How can you make it illegal for a company to hire people legally in other countries through their legal non-US incorporations?

w4ffl35 2y ago
> many of them are no longer hiring in the US, but in India, Poland and Brazil instead to reiterate what i've stated throughout this thread: passing up US workers in favor of hiring foreigners should incur heavy penalties. There is no shortage of American workers. If a foreigner wants to work for an American company, they should get a greencard and work in America. If a company has a foreign office, of course it makes sense to hire people in that country, but that wasn't stipulated in the comment I replied to. Many companies are NOT based in foreign lands and still hire foreigners remotely, passing up Americans in the process, because those foreigners are dirt cheap by comparison. This should not be allowed.
- TypingOutBugs 2y ago
  There’s three ways US companies can do that: 1. Hiring a company for a service 2. Hiring a contractor who invoices through their foreign company 3. Having an office in that country Which one would you make illegal? I don’t even understand what the rule would be to defend or support here, in practice. Companies in the US cannot hire services from foreign countries?
  - w4ffl35 2y ago
    Anything that abuses loopholes in order bypass American workers for cheaper labor. This was a position Trump himself took during the 2016 election and during his first term. I've made it abundantly clear that I am against this practice. H-1B is the current hot button policy that everyone is discussing. I would also like to see all other programs and policies involving the replacement of American workers with cheaper foriegn workers reformed, replaced, or repealed.
coding123 2y ago
I just think start with the moral issue first. Then legal experts can craft logic around that. Basically, if an unemployed American that can write React code, that person should have a job before any H1B (or remotely hired person) at the same level, same remoteness status, etc... If all the Americans are hired, then H1B levels (and remote work Indians) may rise again. I might have a larger shot at getting a job right now if I literally move to India and get in with one of these programming shops. Of course I won't participate in the night-time scamming operation of US grandparents. By the way I'm half Indian
- gloosx 2y ago
  You don't need to move to India for that, it is enough to just bid for 3x less salary like an Indian and you will get the job from anywhere. Then you maybe will consider moving to India.
  - coding123 2y ago
    They think you are fake if you do that. It doesn't work.

w4ffl35 2y ago

> many of them are no longer hiring in the US, but in India, Poland and Brazil instead to reiterate what i've stated throughout this thread: passing up US workers in favor of hiring foreigners should incur heavy penalties. There is no shortage of American workers. If a foreigner wants to work for an American company, they should get a greencard and work in America. If a company has a foreign office, of course it makes sense to hire people in that country, but that wasn't stipulated in the comment I replied to. Many companies are NOT based in foreign lands and still hire foreigners remotely, passing up Americans in the process, because those foreigners are dirt cheap by comparison. This should not be allowed.

TypingOutBugs 2y ago
There’s three ways US companies can do that: 1. Hiring a company for a service 2. Hiring a contractor who invoices through their foreign company 3. Having an office in that country Which one would you make illegal? I don’t even understand what the rule would be to defend or support here, in practice. Companies in the US cannot hire services from foreign countries?
- w4ffl35 2y ago
  Anything that abuses loopholes in order bypass American workers for cheaper labor. This was a position Trump himself took during the 2016 election and during his first term. I've made it abundantly clear that I am against this practice. H-1B is the current hot button policy that everyone is discussing. I would also like to see all other programs and policies involving the replacement of American workers with cheaper foriegn workers reformed, replaced, or repealed.

coding123 2y ago

I just think start with the moral issue first. Then legal experts can craft logic around that. Basically, if an unemployed American that can write React code, that person should have a job before any H1B (or remotely hired person) at the same level, same remoteness status, etc... If all the Americans are hired, then H1B levels (and remote work Indians) may rise again. I might have a larger shot at getting a job right now if I literally move to India and get in with one of these programming shops. Of course I won't participate in the night-time scamming operation of US grandparents. By the way I'm half Indian

gloosx 2y ago
You don't need to move to India for that, it is enough to just bid for 3x less salary like an Indian and you will get the job from anywhere. Then you maybe will consider moving to India.
- coding123 2y ago
  They think you are fake if you do that. It doesn't work.