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Their policy is to do whatever putin wants, they were never particularly strict about their policies (for example half the things Prigozhyn did were against the
by ajuc 2y ago
Their policy is to do whatever putin wants, they were never particularly strict about their policies (for example half the things Prigozhyn did were against the Russian law). Policy changes are just posturing.
Also - tactical nukes won't significantly change anything on the battlefield. There are no big concentrations of troops in this war. It's 20 guys storming a village defended by 100 guys repeat 100 times in a month. If you want to nuke 100 guys to get that village - sure, it could work. Will be hard to establish a base there, but you can kill these 100 guys. But then 3 km further there are other guys. You'll nuke them too?
- riku_iki 2y ago> Also - tactical nukes won't significantly change anything on the battlefield. its not about Ukrainian battlefield, its more if western missiles will be destroying Russian infra, Putin will strike objects/bases/infra in Eastern Europe, he was very clear about it during initial invasion message.
- ajuc 2y agoPutin was very clear the last 10 times too :) About western tanks, military jets, etc. It's all bullshit. Out of all the things Putin won't do - nuking NATO is the first.
- riku_iki 2y agoUkraine is receiving outdated, underequiped and limited inventory. I won't be surprised if there are some direct negotiations with Russia about what is allowed and what is not. There is line after which Putin will launch nukes, destruction of major foundational infra totally could be it: 1. Putin will want to suppress Nato from further steps. 2. Population will likely demand this as an act of revenge. 3. There will be some self defense justification. It won't be massive attack, first nuke to be launched on Ukrainian infra, and second on some EU military base, after which NATO will stop and suck it up(likely after first nuke) if Trump won't decide to escalate which is very unlikely.
- lukan 2y agoA nuclear attack on NATO territory won't be sucked up. Neither would be one on Ukraine. And both sides know, that this has a high chance of escalating further.
- riku_iki 2y agoAnd what NATO will do exactly in your opinion?
- lukan 2y agoDepends on what would be hit. If a tactical nuke on Ukraine - then likely a massive military response and even china would distance themself. A tactical nuke on NATO would likely have the automated chain reaction of all out war.
- riku_iki 2y ago> then likely a massive military response like what? > even china would distance themself. China will likely support this, to legalize their own similar potential actions > A tactical nuke on NATO would likely have the automated chain reaction of all out war. how do you see this? Trump likely will decide to not engage, and EU is weak disorganized, and don't have teeth for major escalation against Russia's nukes.
- lukan 2y ago"China will likely support this, to legalize their own similar potential actions" Not at all, because chinas legal angle with Taiwan is the opposite - the holy territorial integrity. Which is why they critiziced russia for invading officially and don't give really support. The support they do give, is still doing lucrative buisness with russia. That is in their own interest and they like NATO attention split. But the legal situation they don't like as russia is clearly violating territorial integrity - which is their argument for annexing Taiwan. And Trump is an old man and most of the nuclear response is pretty hardcoded into the military institutions. Meaning, so many people will tell Trump he will be seen as weak if he does not react, that he will push the red buttons.