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Causes, according to the article: - High rent > Research finds that where rents go up, so does homelessness - Illegal border crossings > HUD officials say a

Causes, according to the article: - High rent > Research finds that where rents go up, so does homelessness - Illegal border crossings > HUD officials say another key factor was the recent increase in asylum seekers coming to the U.S. - Extreme weather & Maui fire It does not mention the opioid crisis.

blindriver 2y ago
With regards to the Maui fire, no one is talking abt the crisis that FEMA themselves created. They didn’t care about how much or how negligently the money was distributed, so FEMA would offer 2X current rates (upwards of $7000/month) to landlords which incentivized them to kick out existing tenants and cause a bigger problem but no one talks about it. It’s gross incompetence but the media is silent about it.
- y-c-o-m-b 2y ago
  I had no idea about this, but did manage to find an article from this summer on it: https://abcnews.go.com/US/maui-strong-808-maui-fire-survivors-upset-living/story?id=110984642 https://abcnews.go.com/US/maui-strong-808-maui-fire-survivor... You're right though, not much mainstream media traction on this story. > FEMA has allocated $197 million to three companies, none of which are based in Hawaii, to administer the Direct Lease program Smells of borderline corruption from the get-go. What a shit show.
davidw 2y ago
> It does not mention the opioid crisis. Places like West Virginia have way less homelessness than places with high housing costs like the west coast. Homelessness is a housing problem. Drugs make it worse, but are not the primary cause. https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-about https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-...
- jonwachob91 2y ago
  >> Places like West Virginia have way less homelessness than places with high housing costs like the west coast. COLD towns without major homeless shelter capabilities always have lower rates of homelessness b/c the cold weather is literally life threatening. Warm(er) regions, like most of the West Coast that isn't known for blizzards, have higher rates of homelessness b/c there is little risk of death if a homeless person camps out in the woods. Note that a lot of homeless folks in warmer regions didn't become homeless in those warm regions - they often become homeless in northern regions and migrate to warm regions prior to winter. Comparing homelessness in WV to Cali doesn't seem fair since so much of the folks that become homeless in WV are forced to leave the state to survive.
  - blackoil 2y ago
    Yeah, the homeless pool would automatically prune every year. Giving people also the incentive to be not homeless.
    - giraffe_lady 2y ago
      Do you think people choose homelessness because it's insufficiently dangerous?
  - davidw 2y ago
    Did you not read that part of the article where he discusses that very concept with actual data to back it up? New York has higher rates of homelessness than West Virginia. The part of Oregon where I live has a pretty extreme climate, and has way too much homelessness. https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/or/bend https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/or/bend - this is not a climate people move to because it's comfortable and easy like Los Angeles.
    - jonwachob91 2y ago
      Did you not read the part of my comment were I clarified "cities without major homeless shelter capabilities"? New York has major cities that have the infrastructure and resources to shelter homeless populations during major cold events. Plenty of Northern CITIES have those capabilities, but WV doesn't. WV doesn't have a single major city and doesn't have the capabilities to shelter a homeless population during major cold events.
__loam 2y ago
Drug addiction has always been an excuse not to do anything about this. Many people think drug addiction causes homelessness and not the other way around, despite evidence.
- FredPret 2y ago
  One way or the other, ~90% of the homeless people I see here in Calgary are bent over in the fentanyl flop or lighting crack pipes. Some of them would need years of physical therapy to fix their limping, if that is even possible.
gosub100 2y ago
Hate to be macabre, but with 70k+ deaths _per year_ by opiates in the US, it probably helps decrease the demand for housing :(

blindriver 2y ago

With regards to the Maui fire, no one is talking abt the crisis that FEMA themselves created. They didn’t care about how much or how negligently the money was distributed, so FEMA would offer 2X current rates (upwards of $7000/month) to landlords which incentivized them to kick out existing tenants and cause a bigger problem but no one talks about it. It’s gross incompetence but the media is silent about it.

y-c-o-m-b 2y ago
I had no idea about this, but did manage to find an article from this summer on it: https://abcnews.go.com/US/maui-strong-808-maui-fire-survivors-upset-living/story?id=110984642 https://abcnews.go.com/US/maui-strong-808-maui-fire-survivor... You're right though, not much mainstream media traction on this story. > FEMA has allocated $197 million to three companies, none of which are based in Hawaii, to administer the Direct Lease program Smells of borderline corruption from the get-go. What a shit show.

davidw 2y ago

> It does not mention the opioid crisis. Places like West Virginia have way less homelessness than places with high housing costs like the west coast. Homelessness is a housing problem. Drugs make it worse, but are not the primary cause. https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-about https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/everything-you-think-you-know-...

jonwachob91 2y ago
>> Places like West Virginia have way less homelessness than places with high housing costs like the west coast. COLD towns without major homeless shelter capabilities always have lower rates of homelessness b/c the cold weather is literally life threatening. Warm(er) regions, like most of the West Coast that isn't known for blizzards, have higher rates of homelessness b/c there is little risk of death if a homeless person camps out in the woods. Note that a lot of homeless folks in warmer regions didn't become homeless in those warm regions - they often become homeless in northern regions and migrate to warm regions prior to winter. Comparing homelessness in WV to Cali doesn't seem fair since so much of the folks that become homeless in WV are forced to leave the state to survive.
- blackoil 2y ago
  Yeah, the homeless pool would automatically prune every year. Giving people also the incentive to be not homeless.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    Do you think people choose homelessness because it's insufficiently dangerous?
- davidw 2y ago
  Did you not read that part of the article where he discusses that very concept with actual data to back it up? New York has higher rates of homelessness than West Virginia. The part of Oregon where I live has a pretty extreme climate, and has way too much homelessness. https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/or/bend https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/or/bend - this is not a climate people move to because it's comfortable and easy like Los Angeles.
  - jonwachob91 2y ago
    Did you not read the part of my comment were I clarified "cities without major homeless shelter capabilities"? New York has major cities that have the infrastructure and resources to shelter homeless populations during major cold events. Plenty of Northern CITIES have those capabilities, but WV doesn't. WV doesn't have a single major city and doesn't have the capabilities to shelter a homeless population during major cold events.

__loam 2y ago

Drug addiction has always been an excuse not to do anything about this. Many people think drug addiction causes homelessness and not the other way around, despite evidence.

FredPret 2y ago
One way or the other, ~90% of the homeless people I see here in Calgary are bent over in the fentanyl flop or lighting crack pipes. Some of them would need years of physical therapy to fix their limping, if that is even possible.

gosub100 2y ago

Hate to be macabre, but with 70k+ deaths _per year_ by opiates in the US, it probably helps decrease the demand for housing :(